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| Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman. |
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| Schwarzenegger terminates attack on traditional marriage for a second time California 'gay marriage' bill goes to Schwarzenegger by Michael Foust, assistant editor of Baptist Press SACRAMENTO, Calif. --For the second time in two years, the California legislature has sent Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger a bill that would legalize "gay marriage." Schwarzenegger is expected to veto it, just like he did to a similar bill in 2005. Jimmy Barrentine, executive director of the Baptist Convention of Iowa, wrote in a Baptist Press column that some secular media representatives have been disappointed that his comments about the decision weren't edgier. "They were not satisfied with my expressed view that what we believe has nothing to do with any lack of love for people in the homosexual community," Barrentine wrote. "They apparently wanted to present me as an angry person anxious to spill out hateful and vindictive words against the homosexual community." Homosexuals, he wrote, "are not beyond the reach of God's love." Nor, he said, "should they be beyond our love." "[W]e are not informed by our own opinions regarding such matters. We are informed and led by Scripture," he wrote, referring to the definition of marriage. "Scripture defines marriage as a faithful, lifelong covenant between a man and a woman. That is a value that believers are not free to dismiss." The California bill seeks to overturn Proposition 22, a law approved by voters in 2000 that protects the natural definition of marriage. It passed by a margin of 61-39 percent. In February, Schwarzenegger, a Republican, referenced Proposition 22 in telling a high school student at a YMCA event that he would once again veto the bill. "I wouldn't sign it because the people of California have voted on that issue," he said. Voters, he said, "should make the decision." "But it should not be me or the legislature," he said. Conservatives in California say the bill is unconstitutional because, under the state constitution, a voter-approved initiative can be overturned only by voters. Article II, Section 10 of the California constitution says the legislature "may amend or repeal an initiative statute ... only when approved by the electors." Pro-family leaders in California want to pass a constitutional marriage amendment. One coalition, under the umbrella name of VoteYesMarriage.com, wants to ban "gay marriage" and also same-sex domestic partnerships, which already are legal and grant couples the state legal benefits of marriage. Technically, domestic partnerships could continue, but not in their current form and only if they served as a registry and didn't grant marriage's legal benefits. ProtectMarriage.com is promoting an amendment that would ban only "gay marriage." Pro-family organizations such as Focus on the Family are backing the ProtectMarriage.com campaign. The VoteYesMarriage.com group has the support of such organizations as the American Family Association. Baptist Press - California 'gay marriage' bill goes to Schwarzenegger - News with a Christian Perspective | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zielona Gora, Poland Gender: ![]() Posts: 135 Country: ![]()
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At the same time this 'pro-family' group are sticking their noses into a legal arrangement and domestic situation which is, to be frank, none of their business. All this does is promote intolerance and hatred. Why the hell don't both sides just back off. Life's too short. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news. A. Liebling What luck for rulers that men do not think. Adolf Hitler What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Ah-nold does not vant zee gua-ay peoples to get muarried? Ahhh... runn... geet back to da choppah!!! If at first you don’t succeed – try, try again and then quit. There’s no sense in making a damned fool of yourself. – W.C. Fields | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Not in California *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Tristan, can you tell me what rights are conveyed by marriage in California that are not conveyed by registering for a Domestic Partnership? I tried researching it online but to did not find any detailed answer. Right now America spends $700 billion every year on foreign oil. That's our money going overseas when it could be staying here. We have to stop this. That's why I support the Pickens Plan. Check out the website at www.pickensplan.com. If you like what you see, please join me as a Pickens Plan supporter. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Tristan, With Ah-nold in charge, it's "Kal-ee-foorn-ee-ahh" If at first you don’t succeed – try, try again and then quit. There’s no sense in making a damned fool of yourself. – W.C. Fields | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Thank goodness Arnold isn't the Mayor of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch in Wales Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch.com the longest single word .com domain name (not much competition for that url) | |||||||||||||||||||||
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