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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 09-26-2007, 09:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Religious Conservatives being Dupped and Used by GOP
September 25, 2007

Dear Conservative Christian Leader:

As a conservative Christian, I am shocked and appalled that you and many powerful and influential Christian organizations have blessed the horrors wrought upon this nation by George Bush who has utterly destroyed the conservative movement, the GOP and the moral and constitutional values that we hold sacred. Were it not for the outstanding leadership of Eagle Forum and Rev. Chuck Baldwin, the constitutional conservative movement would be DOA. The failure of leadership at your level of influence has resulted in blind obedience to a regime so evil, manipulative, arrogant and unaccountable that constitutional governance and liberty may in fact be irreparably harmed.

The most powerful leaders of the Christian right have blindly sanctioned a litany of congressional and executive deeds that are hacking away at our sovereignty, security, civil liberties and property rights. More to the point, unbridled corruption by GOP power brokers has resulted in massive public debt that has mortgaged future generations of Americans with over $9 trillion in mostly foreign held debt while churning the once mighty and stable dollar into a third world fiat currency.

The Bush Administration is quietly implementing the North American Union, a global governance initiative of the Council on Foreign Relations that spawned the insidious United Nations and the European Union.

With colleges and universities teaching global governance by holding mock North American Parliaments, what do you think will happen to all the marriage amendments passed by the states when our constitution is sacrificed on the alter of anti-Christian global totalitarian rule?

With the Bush Administration advocating for ratification of the Law of the Seas Treaty, a UN initiative that places 70% of the earth’s surface under UN control, what happens to Americans hungry for energy when a cabal of global socialists decides who controls the world’s energy resources?

Where was the religious right when Bush conspired with Ted Kennedy to support No Child Left Behind? Since the federal government seized control of education, our children now suffer endless indoctrination and are now little more than drugged and dumbed down zombies incapable of learning anything in an education systems that condemns America and our Judeo-Christian heritage.

Where has the religious right been on a myriad of civil liberty slashing nightmares like electronic eavesdropping and warrantless searches?

On the dubious war on terror, it’s no more than a fraud because Bush continues to massively import Muslims, their mad mullahs and their atomic ayatollahs. Because of the GOP and Bush, Muslims immigration into America will eventually reach a critical mass. Meanwhile, our unsecured border is littered with Korans and prayer rugs as future jihadists avail themselves of open borders.

The GOP has been living off of borrowed constituencies for a long time as Libertarians, independents, sane Democrats and religious conservatives voted for what they though would be a revolution to squash big unaccountable governance, shrink the federal monster and restore the republic. Instead, we got bigger and more intrusive government along with a whopper of a price tag for more socialism and global interventionism.

The GOP can not survive in its present condition and its base is rapidly deteriorating as a result of frustration and anger. The only hope for the GOP is a restoration of the Republic, an end to endless wars and a new revolutionary war to stop the NAU and renounce NAFTA/CAFTA – economic scourges that are wiping out the American middle class and replacing it with an imported entitlement dependent industrial feudalism.

The betrayal of the GOP is an insufferable abomination. The only hope for America and the only man who can unite Americans is Ron Paul. The rest of GOP line-up consists of pathetic Bushbot slop, war mongering opportunists, sovereignty sellouts, New World Disorder aficionados, big government socialists and a continuation of same type of governance we've witnessed since Reagan left office.

It’s long overdue for the conservative religious base to renounce Bush, the GOP leadership and to withhold support from all the phony baloney conservatives masquerading as the reincarnation of Ronald Reagan. The only exception is Ron Paul.

Let’s face it, Republicans got drunk on absolute power, stayed drunk, sold their souls to the highest bidding special interest lobbyist filling their campaign coffers and voters are now suffering the hangover.

Supporting the existing GOP power brokers is a recipe for the complete and total eradication of America. If the so-called religious right thinks it has an uphill battle against judicial activism and liberalism within our existing political swamp, well, just wait until the religious right is permanently disemboweled by the GOP machine colluding with the NAU gang.

America was founded on the premise that freedom is a God given right and certainly not the right of a rapacious government to dole out and/or to withhold at will. Judeo-Christian civilization hangs in the balance. It’s time for religious conservatives to stop making deals with the devil. It’s time for religious conservatives to understand that the only war that needs to be fought is the war to restore our constitution. It’s time for religious conservatives to shed their moral and political relativism. It’s time for religious conservatives to stop accepting crumbs from a government that is gobbling up fishes and loaves while leaving us hungry and destitute.

It’s time for Ron Paul. Without constitutional governance, there can be no traditional values.

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Old 09-27-2007, 11:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So, in a nutshell, the GOP just ain't xenophobic enough for ya.
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I'm starting to hate the words "traditional values" as much as "gay marriage". They both seem to be rallying cries for two fanatical factions of the population.
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WTF are "traditional values" anyway?

100 years or so ago in the part of the country I live in, it was "traditional" to kill any Indians who wouldn't convert... or for a feller to mail-order a 14-year-old bride so he could get right down to the "tradition" of knocking her up with as many kids as possible to work the ranch.

And it was also "traditional" to wipe your ass with a corn cob in them days.

Do we really want that?
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WTF are "traditional values" anyway?

100 years or so ago in the part of the country I live in, it was "traditional" to kill any Indians who wouldn't convert... or for a feller to mail-order a 14-year-old bride so he could get right down to the "tradition" of knocking her up with as many kids as possible to work the ranch.

And it was also "traditional" to wipe your ass with a corn cob in them days.

Do we really want that?
Actually when the country was founded the age of consent was as low as 7.
Partners Task Force - Marriage History - Peterson

"Tradition" does seems to be evolving. But it still doesn't seem to me that that "evolution" should go as far as some want to take it.
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Actually when the country was founded the age of consent was as low as 7.
Partners Task Force - Marriage History - Peterson

"Tradition" does seems to be evolving. But it still doesn't seem to me that that "evolution" should go as far as some want to take it.

I agree. There will always be a push and pull between tradition and progress. I think even as individuals, we struggle with this every day.

The trick is finding a healthy balance. Not becoming a puritan fanatic because of "tradition" and not flying completely off to Mars in the name of "progress."
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more proof in the ways in which religion poisons everything

BTW must people are stupid and believe what they are told because their stupidity is based in laziness

I may think your religious and or social views are wrong in many respects but I do not now how a traditional member of the GOP (in so far as they believe in less govt etc) could support the neo Christain right that has taken over their party...
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I like the "mad mullahs" and "atomic ayatollahs". Isn't that how the hate comics of the 50's used to sound? Full of alliteration, big noses, outlandish deaths.
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wow

quite a bit of verbiage to basically endorse Ron Paul - without actually SAYING anything about Ron Paul.
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I heard an interview with Ron Paul on the Today show. The abolish the IRS but no replacement plan struck me as weird. Personally I like the "flat tax" idea. Everyone should pay the same tax no matter the income.
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