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Old 09-30-2007, 08:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Consciousness and It's Mystery
Because of my very close encounter with the mysteries of consciousness, as witnessed when Mark was in ICU on full life support and in a coma, I was quite interested in the following article.

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What makes up my mind?

By Joel Achenbach
The Washington Post
September 30, 2007
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If I were to be eaten by a shark, I'm pretty sure the worst part would be not the pain or the mutilation or the actual dying and so forth, but rather the thought balloon over my head with the words, "I'm being eaten by a (expletive) shark!"

Whereas a fish doesn't have this problem. A fish has no thought balloon, or just a teensy little one, with a monosyllabic fish-word like "Urp!" A fish probably suffers, but it doesn't have the additional suffering that comes from knowing that it's suffering, and from regretting that it went swimming instead of watching the golf tournament, and from hearing, as we all do whenever we're devoured by sharks, the theme music from "Jaws." You know: that tuba.

All of which is a deft way of introducing our subject today: The Mystery of Consciousness. It's one of the biggest unknowns, right up there with the origin of life. But it's under a multi-pronged assault by scientists, who vow to crack the code of the mind in the same way that they are deciphering the human genome. It's all very exciting, with the one catch that no one can really agree on what the mind IS.

"With consciousness, there is no agreement on anything," says Giulio Tononi, a professor of psychiatry at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, "except it's very difficult."

Jim Olds, who directs George Mason University's Krasnow Institute, a think tank devoted to the study of the mind, says of his field, "We're waiting for our Einstein."

The human brain is a hunk of meat that weighs about 3 pounds. It contains about 30 billion cells, called neurons. The networking of these cells involves 100 trillion meeting points, or synapses. This is the most complex object in the known universe (though if we explore the stars we may eventually find organisms with brains that make ours seem as impressive as Twinkies).

Human brains can do things that no computer can match. Sure, a computer can beat a human at chess, but only with brute-force calculation of every conceivable move. The most sophisticated robots still lack the basic smarts of a 2-year-old, who can perceive the world in three dimensions and go searching for a kitty cat while somehow avoiding the jutting edge of the coffee table. Negotiating the world requires massive bandwidth.

"The engineering problems that we humans solve as we see and walk and plan and make it through the day are far more challenging than landing on the moon or sequencing the human genome," psychologist Steven Pinker writes in his book "How the Mind Works."

Beyond the basics of perception and motor skills, the human brain has a premium feature: consciousness. You could also call it sentience, or self-awareness, or just the thing that makes it such a drag to be devoured by a mindless oceanic carnivore. This is what keeps us from being zombies. We perceive ourselves as actors on the stage of life. We sense that there's an "I" somewhere inside our skull.

"Consciousness is a big thing," Tononi says. "It is the single biggest thing of all. It is the only thing we really care about in the end."

But we don't understand it. We don't know how, in the words of philosopher Colin McGinn, "the water of the physical brain is turned into the wine of consciousness."

Will we ever know?

Earlier this year, Jim Olds gathered a bunch of big thinkers at George Mason University for a two-day conference on the mind. He and his allies want the federal government to invest $4 billion in an initiative that would be called the "Decade of the Mind." This would be a follow-up to a 1990s program called the "Decade of the Brain," which brought increased attention to neuroscience.

The new initiative would be an attempt to take science into a realm previously explored only by philosophers, theologians and mountaintop yogis.

"Brain science is an exhaustive collection of facts without a theory," Olds says. "This is for the nation as a whole to invest in one of the fundamental intellectual questions of what it is to be a human being."

In a letter published a few weeks ago in the journal Science, 10 scientists said that a Decade of the Mind would help us understand mental disorders that affect 50 million Americans and cost more than $400 billion a year. It might also aid in the development of intelligent machines and new computing techniques. A breakthrough in mind research, the scientists wrote, could have "broad and dramatic impacts on the economy, national security, and our social well-being."

There's reason to be optimistic. Look at what has happened in recent years with the development of brain scans, such as MRIs, that let us observe the brain at work in real time. As the technology improves, the brain becomes more transparent, less of a black box.

That said, the mind isn't something that pops up on a computer screen. People have been poking around the brain in search of the mind for many centuries, and no one is even sure what neurological structures are the most critical to generating consciousness.

René Descartes, who gave us the most famous line in the annals of philosophy ("Cogito, ergo sum" — I think, therefore I am), believed the center of consciousness to be the pea-size structure known as the pineal gland. Nice stab, but it turns out that the pineal gland does not seem to have much to do with creating the "I" in our head.

Other brain structures are important, such as something called Brodmann area 46, and the anterior cingulate sulcus, and the thalamus, and of course the knurled, dipsy-doodle structure called the cerebral cortex. We can also be confident that consciousness does not depend on the cerebellum, which is 50 billion neurons' worth of brain matter that you could surgically remove without "losing your mind." As Tononi puts it, you could toss the cerebellum in the garbage and "YOU would still be there."

The classic idea of "dualism" solves the location problem by defining it away: The mind is perceived as separate from the body, something that can't be reduced to machinery. It's unreachable by the tools of the laboratory.

Dualism flatters us, for it suggests that our minds, our selves, are not merely the result of rambunctious chemistry, and we are thus free to talk about souls and spirits and essences that are unfettered by the physical body.

Dualism is pretty much dead to serious researchers, though an echo of it can be found among philosophers who are sometimes called the Mysterians.

The philosopher David Chalmers has famously made a distinction between the Easy Problems, which involve the ways that the brain creates specific elements of consciousness (vision, language, memory, attention, emotion, etc.), and the Hard Problem, which is the mystery of how all the elements come together in that powerful sense of self ("I am Spartacus").

But here's the most radical idea of all: The reason why the mind is hard to define is not because it has some mysterious, ethereal, spooky qualities but because it doesn't really exist. We just imagine it. You might say it's all in our heads.

When you see a Toyota cruising down the street, you know that you're looking at a complex machine with many parts. You also know that there's a person inside, some intelligent being who's directing the Toyota's movements. The human brain is another complex machine with many parts — but it doesn't seem to have a driver most of the time.

The brain operates day and night and performs myriad functions of which we have no direct awareness. Even our "conscious" brain is actually many different operating systems. It's as though the Toyota is being driven by hundreds of tiny elves, with no single elf in charge.

This is the view espoused by the philosopher Daniel Dennett, author of "Consciousness Explained," who argues that the notion of a central executive in the brain is an illusion. "It's a mistake to look for the president in the Oval Office of the brain," he declares.

It's bad enough that astronomers tell us that the Earth isn't at the center of the cosmos; it's worse that biologists tell us we're all descended from pond scum. Now we have philosophers saying that the self is illusory. You are not really THERE.

The mind might be what Pinker calls the "ultimate tease." He has written that "the most undeniable thing there is, our own awareness, would be forever beyond our conceptual grasp."

The mind, in this view, isn't a single, specific thing. It's more like a process, or an "emergent" phenomenon. This means that the many disparate components are not themselves conscious, but when they get together, the consciousness precipitates into being. Grabbing hold of the mind, however, would be like trying to seize a puffy white cumulus cloud.

Cracking the code of the mind may be ultimately impossible.

My guess is that a century from now, consciousness will still make the list of Biggest Mysteries and scientists and philosophers will still be arguing about the what, where and how of it all.

But we should still take a whack at it. Ten years and $4 billion: That's a reasonable cost. The evolution of the human mind is arguably the most important biological event in the history of our planet since the origin of life itself.

We should try to understand how the brain makes the mind. And then we can make up our minds about what to do with ourselves.



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Old 09-30-2007, 09:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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To me it's simple really. The mind and brain are the same thing. Experience has shown us this time and time again.

I would induce this conclusion even if it weren't for most neuroscientists saying we don't need a 'soul' to experience what we experience (US News). Granted there are still mysteries about consciousness, but really, Occam's razor applied, inference to the best explanation leads to a material mind. Because, although there are some mysteries with this theory, at least it is consistent and strong unlike the 'soul' theory. The latter has many contradictions that still need explaining (How can the nonphysical interact with the physical? If soul has no physical location in time-space then how exactly do you explain that which is inexplicable [there have been futile attempts at portraying the soul as this semi-transparent 'cloud' in human form], etc.).
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Kat, I respect your methods of dealing with mystery. Always on the course of reason.

Still for me, the very conclusion that it is a mystery, lends itself to at the very least, being considered outside the realm of scientific method and perhaps turning to a bit of essential faith.

How come we awe at the sight of a sunset or the vastness of the ocean? How come other primates are oblivious to such wonders?

Could the mind truly be the very image of God?

Just askin' is all . . .

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Kat, I respect your methods of dealing with mystery. Always on the course of reason.

Still for me, the very conclusion that it is a mystery, lends itself to at the very least, being considered outside the realm of scientific method and perhaps turning to a bit of essential faith.
On the contrary, I believe that the fact that it is a mystery begs scientific investigation for the truth. To the ancient and prehistoric man, for example, the stars were a big mystery. They thought that the night sky, being so mysterious, lent itself to be considered within only religious confines.


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How come we awe at the sight of a sunset or the vastness of the ocean? How come other primates are oblivious to such wonders?

Could the mind truly be the very image of God?

Just askin' is all . . .

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Although I may disagree with the nonphysical self, I respect what it is trying to explain, albeit it does so in futility.

I guess the fundamental idea is that we associate emotions and thinking as non-mechanical. I understand that, but I think neuroscience has effectively shown us that emotions and thinking are still subject to the same physical mechanisms that govern what we perceive as the physical universe within space-time. Emotions are induced by chemicals in the brain for example. And it's become quite everyday knowledge that depression and addictions (real mental feelings) can be caused and effected by chemical mechanisms.

By no means, at least in my philosophy, does this reduce the concept of mind to unromantic terms. On the contrary, I've developed a better appreciation of the brain and the wounder that it is, and awe at the intangibly long evolutionary process for something so magnificent to emerge. I personally believe that simply reducing the mind to concepts such as the 'soul' or otherwise non-physical "magic stuff" that somehow interacts with my body is rather unromantic and dissatisfying. To put it bluntly, the truth is more exciting than fiction. I'm struck with more awe by reading a book on neuroscience or the brain rather than some simplistic religious conception of soul or spirit.
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Here is an interesting quote relating to this topic:

“In considering the issue of mental experiences in animals, we have begun to wonder if the implicit assumption that humans are almost wholly conscious and aware (and hence fully competent to evaluate our cognitively less sophisticated animal brethren) is correct. Could it be that the degree to which conscious thinking is involved in the everyday lives of most people is greatly overestimated? We know already that much of our learned behavior becomes hardwired: despite the painfully difficult process of learning the task originally, who has to concentrate consciously as an adult on how to walk or swim, tie a shoe, write words, or even drive a car along a familiar route? Certain linguistic behavior, too, falls into such patterns. Michael Gazzaniga, for instance, tells the story of a former physician who suffered from a left (linguistic) hemisphere lesion so serious that he could not form even simple three-word sentences. And yet, when a certain highly touted but ineffective patent medicine was mentioned, he would launch into a well-worn and perfectly grammatical five-minute tirade on its evils. This set piece had been stored on the undamaged right side (along with the usual collections of songs, poetry, and epigrams) as a motor tape requiring no conscious linguistic manipulation to deliver.



Indeed, what evidence is there that those sublime intellectual events known as “inspiration” involve any conscious thought? Most often our best ideas are served up to us out of our unconscious while we are thinking or doing something perfectly irrelevant. Inspiration probably depends on some sort of repetitive and time-consuming pattern-matching program which runs imperceptibly below the level of consciousness searching for plausible matches.

It strikes us that a skeptical and dispassionate extraterrestrial ethologist studying our unendearing species might reasonably conclude that Homo sapiens are, for the most part, automatons with overactive and highly verbal public relations departments to apologize for and cover up our foibles.”


“The Insect Mind: Physics or Metaphysics?”
J. L. and C. J. Gould
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