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Old 10-23-2007, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Clinton to address executive "power grab"
It's about time one of the candidates said something about the massive power consolidation underway in the Bush administration.

My only question is: why aren't ALL the candidates talking about this?

Clinton considers giving up some powers - Yahoo! News

NEW YORK - If elected president in 2008, Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton would consider giving up some of the executive powers President Bush and Vice President Cheney have assumed since taking office.

In an interview published Tuesday in Guardian America, a Web site run by the London-based Guardian newspaper, Clinton denounced the Bush Administration's push to concentrate more power in the White House as a "power grab" not supported by the Constitution.

Asked if she would consider giving up some of those powers if she were president, Clinton replied, "Oh, absolutely ... I mean, that has to be part of the review that I undertake when I get to the White House, and I intend to do that."

Since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, Bush and Cheney have taken several steps to expand presidential authority and diminish the role of Congress and the federal judiciary. Among other things, they have pushed for warrantless wiretapping of terrorist suspects and the use of "signing statements" to justify ignoring or defying laws enacted by Congress.

In the interview, Clinton noted that other presidents, including Abraham Lincoln, had taken on new presidential powers but had gone back to Congress later to ratify their actions.

Bush and Cheney had taken a different course, she said.

"There were a lot of actions which they took that were clearly beyond any power the Congress would have granted, or that in my view was inherent in the Constitution," Clinton said. "There were other actions they've taken which could have obtained Congressional authorization but they deliberately chose not to pursue it as a matter of principle."
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You mean, giving up powers that were never granted? That's mighty nice of her...
Old 10-24-2007, 01:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You mean, giving up powers that were never granted? That's mighty nice of her...

At least she has the moral fortitude to begin addressing the Constitutional transgressions of Messrs Bush and Cheney

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You mean, giving up powers that were never granted? That's mighty nice of her...

Exactly! It would be very easy NOT to do this, and just quietly assume that the powers that now rest with (or were taken by) the Bush administration transfer to the next administration.

And, if she is as smart as I think she is, she would quickly follow that up by making sure Congress draws up some new laws that would prevent this sort of power grab from happening again.
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Yeah, like that'll happen...
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A letter to the Editor of the New York Times:
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Published: October 28, 2007

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Re “Clinton Plans to Consider Giving Up Some Powers” (news article, Oct. 24): The American Freedom Agenda, an organization of conservatives founded last March 20 to restore checks and balances and protections against government abuses, requested all presidential aspirants, including Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, to sign an American Freedom Pledge.

They were asked to renounce the following powers if elected: torture; presidential signing statements; indefinite detentions of American citizens as enemy combatants; military commissions that combine judge, jury and prosecutor; spying on American citizens in contravention of federal statutes on the president’s say-so alone; kidnapping, imprisoning and torturing suspected terrorists abroad; executive privilege to shield the executive branch from Congressional oversight; prosecuting journalists under the Espionage Act for exposing national security abuses; listing organizations as terrorist groups based on secret evidence; suspending the writ of habeas corpus during the conflict with international terrorism; and invoking the state secrets privilege to deny victims of constitutional wrongdoing any judicial remedy. Senator Clinton has balked at signing the pledge, as have all other candidates except Representative Ron Paul.

Bruce Fein
Chairman, American Freedom Agenda
Washington, Oct. 24, 2007
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