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Old 10-31-2007, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Phelps Clan Ordered To Pay $11M In Anti-Gay Military Suit by The Associated Press
Posted: October 31, 2007 - 5:00 pm ET
(Baltimore, Maryland) A grieving father won a nearly $11 million verdict Wednesday against a fundamentalist Kansas church that pickets military funerals out of a belief that the war in Iraq is a punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.
Albert Snyder of York, Pa., sued the Westboro Baptist Church for unspecified damages after members demonstrated at the March 2006 funeral of his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq.
The jury first awarded $2.9 million in compensatory damages. It returned in the afternoon with its decision to award $6 million in punitive damages for invasion of privacy and $2 million for causing emotional distress.
Snyder's attorney, Craig Trebilcock, had urged jurors to determine an amount "that says don't do this in Maryland again. Do not bring your circus of hate to Maryland again."
Church members routinely picket funerals of military personnel killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, carrying signs such as "Thank God for dead soldiers" and "God hates fags."
A number of states have passed laws regarding funeral protests, and Congress has passed a law prohibiting such protests at federal cemeteries. But the Maryland lawsuit is believed to be the first filed by the family of a fallen serviceman.
The church and three of its leaders - the Rev. Fred Phelps and his two daughters, Shirley Phelps-Roper and Rebecca Phelps-Davis, 46 - were found liable for invasion of privacy and intent to inflict emotional distress.
Even the size of the award for compensating damages "far exceeds the net worth of the defendants," according to financial statements filed with the court, U.S. District Judge Richard Bennett noted.
Snyder claimed the protests intruded upon what should have been a private ceremony and sullied his memory of the event.
The church members testified they are following their religious beliefs by spreading the message that soldiers are dying because the nation is too tolerant of homosexuality.
Their attorneys maintained in closing arguments Tuesday that the burial was a public event and that even abhorrent points of view are protected by the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and religion.
Earlier, church members staged a demonstration outside the federal courthouse. Church founder Fred Phelps held a sign reading "God is your enemy," while Shirley Phelps-Roper stood on an American flag and carried a sign that read "God hates fag enablers." Members of the group sang "God Hates America" to the tune of "God Bless America."
Snyder sobbed when he heard the verdict, while members of the church greeted the news with tightlipped smiles.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Phelps Clan Ordered To Pay $11M In Anti-Gay Military Suit by The Associated Press
Posted: October 31, 2007 - 5:00 pm ET
(Baltimore, Maryland) A grieving father won a nearly $11 million verdict Wednesday against a fundamentalist Kansas church that pickets military funerals out of a belief that the war in Iraq is a punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.
Albert Snyder of York, Pa., sued the Westboro Baptist Church for unspecified damages after members demonstrated at the March 2006 funeral of his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq.
The jury first awarded $2.9 million in compensatory damages. It returned in the afternoon with its decision to award $6 million in punitive damages for invasion of privacy and $2 million for causing emotional distress.

That's great news, nobody could be sorry to see the Phelps mob forced to stop their hateful protests.

However, something tells me this will be overturned on appeal.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's great news, nobody could be sorry to see the Phelps mob forced to stop their hateful protests.

However, something tells me this will be overturned on appeal.
I agree, there is nothing positive about Phelps and his clan. Those "protests" are despicable.
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I think this is great news; however, what I really think the members of the Phelps clan needs is a good old-fashioned ass kicking - by a squad of Marines.
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I think this is great news; however, what I really think the members of the Phelps clan needs is a good old-fashioned ass kicking - by a squad of Marines.

I didn't realise that members of the Phelps family visited Baghdad at the invitation of the late Saddam Hussein:

"In 2003, before the fall of Saddam Hussein during the Iraq War, Phelps wrote Hussein a letter praising his regime for being, in his opinion, "the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets."

Furthermore, he stated that he would like to send a delegation to Baghdad to "preach the Gospel" for one week.

Hussein granted permission, and a group of WBC congregants traveled to Iraq to protest against the U.S. The WBC members stood on the streets of Baghdad holding signs condemning Bill and Hillary Clinton and anal sex.

After Saddam was hanged, Phelps released a video commentary that stated that both Saddam Hussein and Gerald Ford (who had died the same week) were now in Hell."

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I didn't realise that members of the Phelps family visited Baghdad at the invitation of the late Saddam Hussein:

"In 2003, before the fall of Saddam Hussein during the Iraq War, Phelps wrote Hussein a letter praising his regime for being, in his opinion, "the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets."

Furthermore, he stated that he would like to send a delegation to Baghdad to "preach the Gospel" for one week.

Hussein granted permission, and a group of WBC congregants traveled to Iraq to protest against the U.S. The WBC members stood on the streets of Baghdad holding signs condemning Bill and Hillary Clinton and anal sex.

After Saddam was hanged, Phelps released a video commentary that stated that both Saddam Hussein and Gerald Ford (who had died the same week) were now in Hell."

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Geez, how could the Phelps family say that Hussein is in hell when he invited them to Iraq? (chuckle)
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I agree, there is nothing positive about Phelps and his clan. Those "protests" are despicable.
Do you know that early on in his carrer, Phelps fought very hard for the civil rights of Blacks?
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Phelps earned a law degree from Washburn University in 1962, and founded the Phelps Chartered law firm in 1964. The first notable cases were of a civil rights nature. "I systematically brought down the Jim Crow laws of this town," he says.[10] Phelps' daughter was quoted as saying, "We took on the Jim Crow establishment, and Kansas did not take that sitting down. They used to shoot our car windows out, screaming we were nigger lovers," and that the Phelps law firm made up one-third of the state’s federal docket of civil-rights cases.[12]
Phelps took cases on behalf of African American clients alleging discrimination by school systems, and a predominately black American Legion post which had been raided by police, alleging racially-based police abuse. Phelps' law firm obtained settlements for some clients.[13] Phelps also sued then-President Ronald Reagan over Reagan's appointment of a U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, alleging this violated separation of church and state. The case was dismissed by the U.S. district court.[14] [13] Phelps' law firm, staffed by himself and family members also represented non-white Kansans in discrimination actions against Kansas Power and Light, Southwestern Bell, and the Topeka City Attorney, and represented two female professors alleging discrimination in Kansas universities.[12]
In the 1980s Fred Phelps received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and the Bonner Springs branch of the NAACP for his work on behalf of black clients.[15]
Phelps Chartered also won one of the first reverse discrimination cases.[16]
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Do you know that early on in his carrer, Phelps fought very hard for the civil rights of Blacks?
Obviously that is commendable. But isn't that like saying those priests caught diddling young children did wondrous things for the community?
It seems in the last 30-40 years something has changed.
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Obviously that is commendable. But isn't that like saying those priests caught diddling young children did wondrous things for the community?
It seems in the last 30-40 years something has changed.

Seems like the WBC website had been taken offline
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