The adoption vs. abortion myth

OKgrannie · 11-02-2007, 08:09 AM

Promoting adoption won't alter the abortion rate....

The adoption vs. abortion myth - Los Angeles Times

"Giuliani is not alone in misrepresenting the adoption-abortion link in this way. Politicians from both parties frequently promote tax credits and other incentives to ease the way for adoptive parents to demonstrate that they want to "do something" about abortion. Facilitating adoptions, especially of hard-to-place children, deserves our strong support. But it does nothing to affect the abortion rate. To assert that it does is either ill-informed or simply cynical, and it should stop.

Meanwhile, we know that very few women actually place their infants for adoption. In the United States, fewer than 14,000 newborns were voluntarily relinquished in 2003 (the latest year for which an estimate is available), according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. That proportion -- just under 1% of all the children born to never-married women -- has remained constant for almost two decades. It's down considerably from the early 1970s, but even in those days, more than nine in 10 unmarried women who gave birth kept their babies......

In fact, there are plenty of proven, common-sense policies that he (and all those who are still promoting adoption as a viable anti-abortion strategy) could support. Chief among them is to expand women's access to high-quality contraceptive counseling and services and to support comprehensive sex education that teaches young people about both delaying sex and using protection when they do become sexually active.

As a just-published Guttmacher Institute study shows, abortion rates are extremely high in many countries where contraceptives are not readily available and contraceptive use is not encouraged, even though abortion is highly restricted in those places by law. And the world's lowest rates of abortion by far are found in Western Europe, where very few legal restrictions are placed on abortion but contraceptive use and comprehensive sex education are widespread.

Behind virtually every abortion is an unintended pregnancy. The sooner politicians accept that the only way to meaningfully achieve fewer abortions is to do better in helping women and their partners prevent unintended pregnancies in the first place, the better. "

pensacola_niceman · 11-02-2007, 09:24 AM

Quit having fucking babies!! Birth control has been around for a long time.

Catus Felidae · 11-02-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OKgrannie

Promoting adoption won't alter the abortion rate....

The adoption vs. abortion myth - Los Angeles Times

"Giuliani is not alone in misrepresenting the adoption-abortion link in this way. Politicians from both parties frequently promote tax credits and other incentives to ease the way for adoptive parents to demonstrate that they want to "do something" about abortion. Facilitating adoptions, especially of hard-to-place children, deserves our strong support. But it does nothing to affect the abortion rate. To assert that it does is either ill-informed or simply cynical, and it should stop.

Meanwhile, we know that very few women actually place their infants for adoption. In the United States, fewer than 14,000 newborns were voluntarily relinquished in 2003 (the latest year for which an estimate is available), according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. That proportion -- just under 1% of all the children born to never-married women -- has remained constant for almost two decades. It's down considerably from the early 1970s, but even in those days, more than nine in 10 unmarried women who gave birth kept their babies......

In fact, there are plenty of proven, common-sense policies that he (and all those who are still promoting adoption as a viable anti-abortion strategy) could support. Chief among them is to expand women's access to high-quality contraceptive counseling and services and to support comprehensive sex education that teaches young people about both delaying sex and using protection when they do become sexually active.

As a just-published Guttmacher Institute study shows, abortion rates are extremely high in many countries where contraceptives are not readily available and contraceptive use is not encouraged, even though abortion is highly restricted in those places by law. And the world's lowest rates of abortion by far are found in Western Europe, where very few legal restrictions are placed on abortion but contraceptive use and comprehensive sex education are widespread.

Behind virtually every abortion is an unintended pregnancy. The sooner politicians accept that the only way to meaningfully achieve fewer abortions is to do better in helping women and their partners prevent unintended pregnancies in the first place, the better. "

Let's face it Granny. Too many people are interested in preventing unintended pregnancies ONLY by telling women "Don't have sex".

Next week I'm taking my neighbor for an abortion. She's 28, has a 2 year old and an almost 4 year old. She also has several medical problems including Factor V Leiden. She's had 8 miscarriages over the past 6 years. With all of this, her doctor refuses to tie her tubes.

I guess she and her husband are just supposed to give up sex.

OKgrannie · 11-02-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Catus Felidae

Let's face it Granny. Too many people are interested in preventing unintended pregnancies ONLY by telling women "Don't have sex".

Next week I'm taking my neighbor for an abortion. She's 28, has a 2 year old and an almost 4 year old. She also has several medical problems including Factor V Leiden. She's had 8 miscarriages over the past 6 years. With all of this, her doctor refuses to tie her tubes.

I guess she and her husband are just supposed to give up sex.

She needs to find a new doctor. And all current doctors need to be required to take a class in Women can decide for themselves. I am so sick of this paternalistic attitude doctors have toward women.

fxashun · 11-02-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Catus Felidae

Let's face it Granny. Too many people are interested in preventing unintended pregnancies ONLY by telling women "Don't have sex".

Next week I'm taking my neighbor for an abortion. She's 28, has a 2 year old and an almost 4 year old. She also has several medical problems including Factor V Leiden. She's had 8 miscarriages over the past 6 years. With all of this, her doctor refuses to tie her tubes.

I guess she and her husband are just supposed to give up sex.

Or he could get a vasectomy? There are other options.

Catus Felidae · 11-02-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OKgrannie

She needs to find a new doctor. And all current doctors need to be required to take a class in Women can decide for themselves. I am so sick of this paternalistic attitude doctors have toward women.

Me too!

That's one of the reasons I switched to a female ob/gyn. You don't get as much of that "You let me worry about that" crap from them.

Catus Felidae · 11-02-2007, 10:16 AM

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Or he could get a vasectomy? There are other options.

If you're willing to pay for it, he's willing to get one.

Very few doctors are willing to perform elective surgery when you have no medical insurance.

OKgrannie · 11-02-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman

Quit having fucking babies!! Birth control has been around for a long time.

The object of abortion is to quit having ____babies. Or rather to quit having the unwanted ones. Birth control has been around for a long time and it's still not perfect.

OKgrannie · 11-02-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Catus Felidae

If you're willing to pay for it, he's willing to get one.

Very few doctors are willing to perform elective surgery when you have no medical insurance.

Won't Planned Parenthood provide that on a sliding scale?

Catus Felidae · 11-02-2007, 10:53 AM

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Won't Planned Parenthood provide that on a sliding scale?

To be honest Grannie, I don't know.

I will check though.