tyreay

Here is a quote from James Madison. "In war the discretionary power of the president is extended. It's influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied and all the means of seducing the minds are added to those subduing the force of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes and the opportunities of fraud growing out of the state of war and in the degeneracy of manors and morals engendered by both. No nation can preserve it's freedom in the midst of continual warfare"

What does this historic view have to do with our current Administration?

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Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville

tyreay

Oh No. What would James say about this?
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...news-a_section

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Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville

indago

Recall that in George Orwell's book 1984, Oceania was at continual war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Bush has declared war not only on Iraq, but on "terrorism", a never-ending war.

Boondoggle

intangible child

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

It is impossible to engage in intellectual discourse with Republican Party, for if there were such an entity, one would have to try by means of analysis and discussion either to prove its validity or to combat it. In actuality, however, we face a totally different situation. At it's very inception this movement depended on the deception and betrayal of one's fellow man; even at that time it was inwardly corrupt and could support itself only by constant lies."It is unbelievable, to what extent one must betray a people in order to rule it." If at the start this cancerous growth in the nation was not particularly noticeable, it was only because there were still enough forces at work that operated for the good, so that it was kept under control. As it grew larger, however, and finally in an ultimate spurt of growth attained ruling power, the tumor broke open, as it were, and infected the whole body. The greater part of its former opponents went into hiding. The American intellectuals fled to their cellars, there, like plants struggling in the dark, away from light and sun, gradually to choke to death. Now the end is at hand. Now it is our task to find one another again, to spread information from person to person, to keep a steady purpose, and to allow ourselves no rest until the last man is persuaded of the urgent need of his struggle against this system. When thus a wave of unrest goes through the land, when "it is in the air," when many join the cause, then in a great final effort this system can be shaken off. After all, an end in terror is preferable to terror without end.

onlyoneplanet

The Project for a New American Century is just scary.

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hevusa

you said it. creepy.

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"There is no such thing as laziness. Laziness is only lack of incentive." Norman Reider, MD

Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality.

tyreay

Don't mention the new american century too loud or we'll be asked to move it to conspiracy theories!!!!!

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Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville

onlyoneplanet

Hahaha!

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\"Are we justified in using articles, no matter how convenient it may be for us to use them, that we know were produced in conditions which bored and even stultified the human beings who had to make them?\"
-John Seymour

intangible child

“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth in defense of our great nation.---George W. Bush

And I give you the "unpatriotic acts"GWB

"Dictatorships start wars because they need external enemies to exert internal control over their own people." ~ Richard Perle

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it."---George W. Bush