Utah Crossfire

Man Of Tomorrow · 11-17-2007, 05:20 PM

I'm not one to be intolerant of many things in today's world. I know how things are and how times have changed, therefore I understand why things have gone to the dogs so to speak. One thing I can't seem to get over is the controversy over a series of crosses that were put up in Utah as a memorial for fallen state troopers. I don't find the cross thing absurd. The part I dislike in this whole situation is the outcry by members of the American Atheist in Utah.

They are trying to bring about a lawsuit because they claim that the crosses represent Jesus Christ, and therefore violate the first amendment. Some of the American Atheist members that were on tv have been verbally attacked by the likes of Glen Beck and Sean Hannity. Obviously, both are conservatives. Understandable. Well, as neither conservative nor liberal I am going to take time and sorta join the fray of attack against these atheist instigators. First of all, I find it very disrespectful of the American Athiest group to go after innocent people trying to pay homage to their friends and loved ones. Have we come to this in our country? Where some of us are so anti that we are willing to disregard another person's feelings and beliefs just because we don't agree with them? Its absolutely rediculious.

Secondly, the crosses don't violate the first amendment. The crosses were bought by private firms with their own money. These crosses were not paid for with taxpayers' money. If that were the case then maybe those stick in the asses from the AA would have a case. Fact is, they don't. What we are witnessing is a case of "panty in twist" They are angry at the fact that its a cross. Nothing more. They are fishing for ways to attack Christian faith. They aren't tolerant. They forget that freedom of religion goes both ways. How could you be so cold hearted and selfish? The Utah State Trooper Association has said that the crosses represent a reminder for drivers to slow down, as well as memorials for fallen troopers. They are secular symbols. Athiests of Utah, get over it and get over yourselves.

I'm coming at this as a christian and a human being. If I were an atheist I still wouldn't have a problem with the crosses. It wouldn't make me wanna sue anyone thats for sure. Why waste time on an issue that doesn't include you? Your just as wrong as you claim those who set up the crosses to be. Your pushing yourselves into a situtation that didn't even concern you in the first place. You didn't have to get offended by those crosses. Their obviously memorials. They aren't plain crosses that are just there with notihng on them. They have the names of the troopers and badge numbers on them. An infant could see that they are memorials. Leave it to atheists to get all bent out of shape over something that isn't a big deal.

It offends me personally that they want to rain on families that are trying to find ways to deal with their loss. How do atheists deal with their family tragedies? Do they ignore them? Do they just pretend or refuse the fact that family members die? I mean why not, they don't believe in anything anyway.

Stop picking on these people that are going through enough already. They've been through alot of sad events. Last thing they need is a bunch of stiff atheists breathing down their necks. Heres a tip for the small ignorant group of atheists in Utah that represent the AA. Go back to your homes under the bridge and leave those families alone. Your ignorance and selfish behavior is not welcome. I don't care about your anger or your frustration that isn't warranted. You have no right to be offended. You have no right to want to bring a lawsuit to this matter. Your wrong. I don't know who you people answer to in the end but sooner or later your senseless outcries will have to carry some weight. So far, especially with this matter you've just given another reason why most of the country find you to be weird and bitter. Keep it up, we all need something to laugh at in the news these days.

So people of all beliefs and moral standing. What do you think about this matter going down in Utah.

Who's wrong?, Who's right?

Who's the real victims in this situation?

englishsunflower · 11-18-2007, 08:31 PM

We are all the victims in this situation. What ever happen to Tolerance. Seams this country takes 2 steps forward and 3 steps back.

Man Of Tomorrow · 11-18-2007, 09:06 PM

We aren't all victims. I have to disagree with that. The American Atheist group in Utah isn't a victim in this. They made themselves out to be the main victim. That was the sad and pathetic thing about this. They basically shined an unwanted light on these families that weren't looking for any type of trouble or attention. All they wanted were their family members and friends to be honored the right way. They didn't hurt anyone's feelings by buying those memorials with their own money. The AA of Utah had to come along and play victim. They are wrong for that.

fxashun · 11-19-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by englishsunflower

We are all the victims in this situation. What ever happen to Tolerance. Seams this country takes 2 steps forward and 3 steps back.

How are the Athiests victims? Did you even read what he typed?

OhDear · 11-19-2007, 07:35 AM

If atheists have any legal ground to thwart the display of crosses, crosses privately purchased...then what is next? Can they demand that cemeteries not have religious monuments as well?

And I do wonder how many gods there are out there that one has to not believe in, before one can truly be counted an atheist. That said, what about the God of the Surfboard Frogs? And the emblem of faith in that God is a surfboard that says, "Rivet"? If the people had lined the roads with those "religious" emblems, me, as an unbeliever in that God, would not have gotten my toga tied in a knot over it...

Once you rule out belief at all, I don't see what there is to fight against...

OhDear