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What is an American?

What is an American?


Crevecoeur’s famous essay about American Ideals and farmers doesn’t need a definition, nor does Amendment I from the Bill of Rights published in 1791

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

For the above reasons America has become the dream of all; a refuge where oppressed people seek help, security and food.

Democracy was embodied in America and now with the help of president Bush is being spread all over the world.

The following video shows a short scene of America’s democracy in Iraq. Have a look and see if an American should be proud of it!!

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http://www.archive.org/download/dmoq...ricainIraq.avi

http://www.archive.org/download/diad...ricainIraq.avi
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Zardook,

way to make your presence known at the DtT! Welcome just the same.

I am against the war...

But have to say that anything on youtube, well...media at all...

every side of an issue wrangles for support with hyped and falsified media. Am I saying this youtube is falsified? No!

But I am saying, sometimes a picture is NOT worth a thousand words. Sometimes a picture can be only one word: Lies.

Please document your vital and good concern with real tangible stats and data that is irrefutable.

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Thank you for ur reply oh dear...

true wat u said that taking resources from the net is not trusted...I think this is the case about all media...but at least one should see and watch the two sides...not to be blind about others' voices...even if they may sometimes say and reveal bad things about us...

thanx again
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Propaganda like this will ensure that I won't stop hearing the mortars and bombs anytime soon. Of course, the bombs and mortars that the Iraqi insurgents lob NEVER kill innocents and children.
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Propaganda like this will ensure that I won't stop hearing the mortars and bombs anytime soon. Of course, the bombs and mortars that the Iraqi insurgents lob NEVER kill innocents and children.

I am glad to hear your heart of compassion for the Iraqi Innocents, Pen.

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Propaganda like this will ensure that I won't stop hearing the mortars and bombs anytime soon. Of course, the bombs and mortars that the Iraqi insurgents lob NEVER kill innocents and children.
Not even the ones intentionally aimed at busy shopping areas and mosques.
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I am glad to hear your heart of compassion for the Iraqi Innocents, Pen.

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Three innocent Iraqi civilians where killed last week with the bomb that exploded 2 blocks from where I am. (see BOOM!!! thread)
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You know, it is easy for someone to post a video saying see what the American Military did, and showing the aftermath of who knows what???? How do we know that this was American bombing? How do we know that this was not some other form of violence committed by someone who opposes the presence of America in Iraq. Where is the proof. Yes it is horrible seeing dead bodies, especially those of women and children, but let us knot forget that there are how many unmarked graves in Iraq from the Saddam regime, containing the bodies of men, women and children. War is an ugly business, it is hell on earth, and while times have changed and the weapons used have become more precise, let me remind you of the bombing during WWII that took how many lives of innocent civilians trying to bring an end to the regimes of Hitler and Japan.

American soldiers, sailors and airmen do not make it a practice of hiding behind innocent civilians to protect themselves from enemy fire, more often than naught, they will risk their own lives to put themselves between the enemy and the people, the same cannot be said of the insurrgents who routine hide behind innocents, not to mention bomb police stations, markets, mosques and other areas where the people live, pray, shop and meet.

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No proof, only video.
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America Corrupted, Media rules the world. Dr. Evil behind the rotating wall. A Mafia like Government. your either in or your out. A cult like religion. Eat,sleep, breathe, and think the way I do, otherwise you will fall and be made an example out of. So why are we so persuaded by all this? why are we blinded by the dysfunctions of our policies? Why is everything either or, one way or another. A free thinking spirit & mind is priceless and can't be taking away. Value is virtue and power is greed.

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