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Gay relationships and marriage are immoral. Says who? The Bible? Somehow, I always thought that freedom of religion implied the right to freedom from religion as well. The Bible has absolutely no standing in American law, as was made clear by the intent of the First Amendment (and as was very explicitly stated by the founding fathers in their first treaty, the Treaty of Tripoli, in 1791) and because it doesn't, no one has the right to impose rules on anyone else simply because of something they percieve to be a moral injunction mandated by the Bible. Not all world religions have a problem with homosexuality; many sects of Buddhism, for example, celebrate gay relationships freely and would like to have the authority to make them legal marriages. In that sense, their religious freedom is being infringed. If one believes in religious freedom, the recognition that opposition to gay marriage is based on religious arguments is reason enough to discount this argument.

englishsunflower

This is want I have been trying to say all along.You just say it more eloquently.
There is no place in our gov. for religion.It wasn't set up for that.It was set up for everyone no matter who they are.

tristanrobin

It's all moot anyway.
There are many Christian churches that support, sanction and perform same sex marriages. (My own main-stream church is one of them.)
The Reformed Jewish sect (the largest sect of Jews in the U.S.) and the Conservative branch of Judaism both support and sanction and perform same sex marriages (the only Jews that are anti-gay are those in the Orthodox faith).
There are also many religious scholars and ancient religion scholars who have shown that some of the anti-gay statements in the Bible are the result of mistranslation (often INTENTIONAL mistranslation due to political agendas at the time).
King James was actually fighting a gay brother who was a student of fortune-telling for his throne at the time the King James translation was being written. Think any of those scriptures about homosexuals and/or witches, fortune tellers, soothsayers, etc. had any hidden agendas? LOL
It's all so so so silly.

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fxashun

This is why homosexual people hate the Bible so. Yet for some reason they want to be included in religion. WTF. I guess that also might answer why half of them say homosexuality is a population control, yet so many of them want and have children. WTF is that?

Separation of church and state didn't mean that we can't look at a situation and deem it f'd up. Prostitution, incest, gambling, pedophilia are also illegal now for one reason or another even though to one extent or another all have been legal at one time or another. As a society we have the right to deem some things unwanted. When we wanted to stop people from marrying at 10 years old, we made it illegal. When we found women selling their bodies and deemed it something we didn't want in our society, we made it illegal. Most people don't want gay people to call their union a "marriage". And while most people use a religious backing for their decision, that's mainly a result of most people in this country are
Christian. But until recently 100% of the friggin world banned homosexual marriage. That's not a Christian thing, that's a human thing. Any human can look at the human body and see that homosexuality is an abnormal condition. There is no real reason to include homosexuals under the name marriage. Other than the fact that they feel left out. Well, face it, you were born left out. Left out of the majority of the living species on the planet born with the correct sexual orientation.

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pensacola_niceman

This man says gay relationships and marriages are immoral. Who the hell are you to argue with him?

mytmouse57

That hat he's wearing screams "I'M GAY!"

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forester814

Another generalization that is as sweeping as it is ignorant.

Like the majority of people in this country, the majority of gay people are religious, and the majority of gay religious people in this country are Christians.

...aaaand Christians, as far as I know, do not hate the Bible.

My wife would be one such homosexual Christian who loves the Bible.

That's another apology you owe... wow, you really racked them up today.

chandon12

The horrible selection of church leaders, like Fred Phelps ( I wont even honor him by calling him Reverend ), Ted Haggard, Pat Robertson, Rod Parsely, Jerry Falwell ( may God rest his old soul!), and their ilk gives religion a very bad name... People like these are the most unchristian of all!

garysher

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