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11-23-2007, 04:30 PM
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 |  Are Gay Rights Civil Rights ? ARE gay rights civil rights? Of course they are. "Civil rights" are positive legal prerogatives--the right to equal treatment before the law. These are rights shared by all--there is no one in the United States who does not--or should not--share in these rights. Gay and lesbian rights are not "special rights" in any way. It isn't "special" to be free from discrimination--it is an ordinary, universal entitlement of citizenship. The right not to be discriminated against is a commonplace claim we all expect to enjoy under our laws and our founding document, the Constitution. That many had to struggle to gain these rights makes them precious--it does not make them special, and it does not reserve them only for me or restrict them from others. When others gain these rights, my rights are not reduced in any way. Luckily, "civil rights" are a win/win game; the more civil rights are won by others, the stronger the army defending my rights becomes. My rights are not diluted when my neighbor enjoys protection from the law--he becomes my ally in defending the rights we share | |||||||||||||||||||||
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11-23-2007, 04:33 PM
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And what "rights" are you denied because of your homosexuality? Sounds like yet another example of playing victim | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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11-23-2007, 04:46 PM
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Gay and lesbian rights are not "special rights" in any way. It isn't "special" to be free from discrimination--it is an ordinary, universal entitlement of citizenship. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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11-23-2007, 04:50 PM
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11-23-2007, 04:52 PM
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 | sure people preach all the time about things that I find abhorrent - there are people who preach against, blacks, Jews, Catholics, women, etc. one cannot outlaw bigotry - only make sure that all are treated equally under the law *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*  "know this is EXACTLY why people think you shouldnt have equal rights" 2/11/08 Grace | |||||||||||||||||||||
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11-23-2007, 04:53 PM
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Did you burn your porridge today?? Had you read my post you would realise that I was arguing that homosexual rights cannot pertain to straight people BY DEFINITION - ergo they ARE special rights! And I'm still waiting for examples of rights that are witheld from homosexuals. Marriage and joining the military are not rights btw. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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11-23-2007, 04:57 PM
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You have a right to laugh. But the right to oppose homosexuality on moral grounds is being denied in California schools Sacramento, Oct 16, 2007 / 10:09 am (CNA).- Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed into law a bill requiring all California public schools to positively portray homosexuality to children as young as kindergarten. California bill could radically favor homosexuality in schools Yet another example of special homosexual "rights"? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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11-23-2007, 05:02 PM
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There are no special rights..........only human rights. Is this | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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