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Philosophy Discuss and debate the philosophies of religion, issues of faith, free will and determinism, and theories of knowledge.

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Old 11-28-2007, 05:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Freedom is an ever expanding comprehension

Freedom is an ever expanding comprehension

Society is not a collection of individuals but is a system of containers.

Non-philosophical forms of inquiry are intellectual endeavors constituted by certain basic assumptions. A scientific form of inquiry assumes that the world is an ordered whole and that we can, through reason, acquire knowledge of this whole. The world of science is governed by laws that define causal effects that are measurable and perceivable by humans.

Reality may be a rainbow but it is the case that humans reason from within container like boundaries; thus we are always within a container. However, the trick is to enlarge our containers and thereby gain a more universal perspective. We must find a means to examine our assumptions. Each container is constructed with its own assumptions. That is why philosophy is so useful. It is a container within the largest container, or at least Philosophy likes to think so.

By reading backward we get a sense of the universal and the relative, the essential and the arbitrary. We can form the basis of reading critically with questions to act as our guide to understanding. We can learn to see beyond the surface appearance. We can learn to stop our general practice of sleep reading. We have learned in our schooling to sleep read, sleep listen, and to become apathetic regarding all things intellectual. By reading backwards we can begin to comprehend the irrational assumptions of our superficial consumer culture.

Freedom is an ever larger container.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm all for examination of basic assumptions, but let's not confuse that with having a basic assumption that to a limited degree all systems of perceptions ('containers') are of equal worth in consideration. As that I think would mean opening your mind too much as to have your brain fall out.

And, perhaps such confines are a good thing in many instances correspondingly to the goal of truth. My philosophical inquiry isn't necessarily to provide a freedom but to come to higher forms of truth. Concurrently, the basic assumptions of science has been the last real arbiter of truth. I think you can take a scientific approach to philosophy, turning 'philosophy' more into a verb. There may be a basic assumption that through a scientific method you can deduce reality, but there is also the basic practice of a constant examination for evidence and Socratic inquiry.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Philosophy, is the talk on a cereal box
Religion, is a smile on a dog

I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know if you know what I mean
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Aw gee, and I wanted everybody to think I made that up myself. Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians
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Are you plagiarising Popeye??

"I am what I am and that's all what I am
I'm Popeye the sailor man
boom boom"

Few of us realise just how profound Popeye was.
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The scientific method has been proven to be very effective when used on the natural sciences. Our problem is more related to problems within the human sciences, which cannot use the scientific method generally. There is basically two types of knowledge, knowledge of objects that are time invarent and knowledge of humans, which is not time invarent.
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Are you plagiarising Popeye??

"I am what I am and that's all what I am
I'm Popeye the sailor man
boom boom"

Few of us realise just how profound Popeye was.
Edie would have been the one plagiarising, The Bohemians aren't so New now. I think I have Shooting Rubberbands at the stars on Vinyl
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