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03-19-2008, 07:02 AM
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Level up: 52%, 44 Points needed | | Barack Hussein Obama... the record of a unqualified candidate Barack Hussein Obama is an African-American who has not shared the black American experience and was, by birth and blood, a Muslim for at least 27 years. His politics are rooted in Marx, socialism and Alinsky. He is a master at shaping his own mythology and completely unqualified to be Commander in Chief. 1996-2001: His political history in Illinois shows that Obama has proven himself to be a nearly perfect Progressive-Democrat.
While in the Illinois State Senate, Obama is named Chairman of the Health and Human Services Committee. His distinguished works include passing bill to assist children and adults who cannot afford health insurance; increasing funding for AIDS prevention and care; a law requiring police to videotape interrogations for crimes punishable by the death penalty; a law requiring insurance companies to cover routine mammograms; legislation to curb racial profiling.
Obama opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times in Illinois. The Born Alive bill would have prohibited a baby from being born alive but left to die according to the mother's wishes. Obama opposed this bill not once, twice, or three times, but four times.
Obama took almost $90,000 in bundled contributions from the Council for a Livable World. The council is a well-known anti-defense organization.
Obama puts rigid ideology before what's best for the people of Illinois, and presumably he would do that as President as well. He has on several occasions made public his opposition to the NAFTA trade agreement and his belief that it must be negotiated. All the while thanks to NAFTA, Illinois exports $1.3 billion in agricultural goods to Canada.
Obama was the only member of the Illinois State Senate to vote against a bill that prohibited early release for sexual predators.
Obama voted to make a criminal out of a homeowner who was forced to use a gun in his own defense in his own home.
Obama refused to vote for a bill in the Illinois State Senate that would have increased penalties for drug traffickers.
Obama voted against making it a criminal offense for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang.
Obama voted against a bill that would have delivered the death penalty to gang members who murder first responders.
Obama’s record on anti-gang legislation is simple; because gang members are more often people of color, they shouldn’t be singled out for increased attention or special penalties by the law. 2001:The directors of the Woods Fund, including Obama and Ayers, provided a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN.
The co-founder of the AAAN, Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, was a director of the official PLO press agency WAFA in Beirut from 1976 to 1982, while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group. He also has held a fundraiser for Obama.
Khalidi's wife, Mona, serves as president. The Fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002.
The $40,000 grant from Obama's Woods Fund to the AAAN constituted about a fifth of the Arab group's reported grants for 2001, according to tax filings obtained by WND. The $35,000 Woods Fund grant in 2002 also constituted about one-fifth of AAAN's reported grants for that year. 2007: Obama has missed the most votes of any Democratic presidential hopeful in the Senate over the last two months, including a vote on an Iran resolution he has blasted Sen. Hillary Clinton for supporting.
The Illinois Democrat has missed nearly 80 percent of all votes since September.
Obama routinely avoids voting on any issue that is not helpful to Muslim goals.
For example, Obama missed a vote on a resolution that declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, an elite part of the Iranian military, a terrorist organization. Barack Hussein Obama
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03-19-2008, 10:46 AM
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03-19-2008, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by highway80west Well, can you tell us how qualified Hillary is? | She is just as bad... but this thread is concerning Obama.
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03-19-2008, 12:57 PM
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03-19-2008, 01:02 PM
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Level up: 52%, 44 Points needed | | 2005: Obama supports homosexual marriage, racial preferences, banning all guns, flag-burning, socialized medicine and the absolute right to abortion, including partial-birth abortions. He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive.
Obama is anti-war, voted against the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act, against privatizing Social Security and opposes the death penalty, three strikes laws and school vouchers. He has no military service record. He strongly supports the decriminalization of marijuana.
Obama opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry. 2005: Project Votesmart reports that Obama supports the interests of Planned Parenthood 100%.
Obama supports the interests of NARAL Pro-Choice America 100%.
Obama supports the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 0%. 2005: Obama accepts rides on corporate jets, some to attend his own fundraisers. 2005: Obama has missed the most votes of any Democratic presidential hopeful in the Senate over the last two months, including a vote on an Iran resolution he has blasted Sen. Hillary Clinton for supporting.
The Illinois Democrat has missed nearly 80 percent of all votes.
Obama routinely avoids voting on any issue that is not helpful to Muslim goals.
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03-19-2008, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jaaaman 2005: Obama supports homosexual marriage, racial preferences, banning all guns, flag-burning, socialized medicine and the absolute right to abortion, including partial-birth abortions. He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive.
Obama is anti-war, voted against the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act, against privatizing Social Security and opposes the death penalty, three strikes laws and school vouchers. He has no military service record. He strongly supports the decriminalization of marijuana.
Obama opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry. 2005: Project Votesmart reports that Obama supports the interests of Planned Parenthood 100%.
Obama supports the interests of NARAL Pro-Choice America 100%.
Obama supports the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 0%. 2005: Obama accepts rides on corporate jets, some to attend his own fundraisers. 2005: Obama has missed the most votes of any Democratic presidential hopeful in the Senate over the last two months, including a vote on an Iran resolution he has blasted Sen. Hillary Clinton for supporting.
The Illinois Democrat has missed nearly 80 percent of all votes.
Obama routinely avoids voting on any issue that is not helpful to Muslim goals. | Some of these 'Muslim' goals are actually just the goals of the Democratic Party generally. Others are typical of a black guy who worked in Inner City Chicago. Whilst I do agree he does have a different experience to many other black people in the US. He isn't the descendent of slaves, nor was he poor inner city youth fighting to stay out of gangs and the like and His middle name is unfortunate.
But you are really incorrect about Kenya...Kenya is not a particularily Muslim country only about 10% of the population are muslim..Sunni Muslims primarily..most people in Kenya are Christians about 80% (or more depending on who you take the statistic from) of the country are Christians which makes Kenya more Christian then the US
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03-19-2008, 02:19 PM
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03-19-2008, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jaaaman | \ That website is a hoot - not exactly fair and balanced! "Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA)...."
An ADMITTED relationship with someone PUBLICLY IDENTIFIED as a COMMUNIST !!
God help us - a COMMUNIST! Aren't they even more evil than muslims or pedophiles?? ............ But Obama, in his book, "Dreams From My Father," refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."
Frank is the black communist writer now considered by some to be in the same category of prominence as Maya Angelou and Alice Walker" Frank is considered by SOME ( a mysterious group of unidentified people) to be similar to Maya Angelou.
Is there something sinister about that? Isn't she a famous American writer?
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03-19-2008, 03:11 PM
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Points: 24,684, Level: 95 | Level up: 96%, 666 Points needed | | This thread begs the question why there is no "conservative" candidate left.
Is it because:
A) 7 years of Bush and his neo-conservative adventures have crippled the conservative movement, possibly for decades
B) Many prospective conservative candidates are either in jail, awaiting trial or thoroughly disgraced (Powell, Gingrich, DeLay, Libby, Abramovich, etc)
C) The Vice President isn't running (does anyone really think he would win if he WAS running??)
D) Competing over who is the most like Ronald Reagan means nothing to 40% of American voters who weren't old enough to vote when he was elected
E) All of the above
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03-19-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by garysher This thread begs the question why there is no "conservative" candidate left.
Is it because:
A) 7 years of Bush and his neo-conservative adventures have crippled the conservative movement, possibly for decades
B) Many prospective conservative candidates are either in jail, awaiting trial or thoroughly disgraced (Powell, Gingrich, DeLay, Libby, Abramovich, etc)
C) The Vice President isn't running (does anyone really think he would win if he WAS running??)
D) Competing over who is the most like Ronald Reagan means nothing to 40% of American voters who weren't old enough to vote when he was elected
E) All of the above | I'm going with E. Although concerning "D", that prospect is an exercise in futility for conservatives. It seems as if they desperately needed a cult of personality that was more modern than Abraham Lincoln so they chose the closest and most down-talking Republican President on the list. The reason why I say this is because Ronald Reagan didn't even fit the Republican's idealistic mold of Ronald Reagan. If the Republicans truly were looking for a candidate closest to Ronald Reagan, then they're looking for someone that increases taxes, increases spending (even though cuts valuable domestic programs), passes amnesty bills for illegal immigrants, and cut and runs from foreign military engagements when we're attacked (Lebanon).
Sounds like McCain was the closest out of the Republican candidates anyway. That is, minus the actor designation which went to Fred Thompson and the cut and run designation which went to Ron Paul.
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