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Old 03-21-2006, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Amazing...
I find it amazing that anyone can still support this silly one party system that we have in this country. I say one party because the only differences between democrats and republicans are their views on abortion and the death penalty.

Congress is actually attempting to eliminate third parties officially: http://www.lp.org/media/article_284.shtml . So much for democracy.

In my opinion, the only way that we are going to make progress is if we massively change this political system that we have and create a more democratic society.
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Old 03-21-2006, 01:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I can see what you are trying to get at..but I would definitely not consider America a "1 party system". Definitely a "divided, 2 party system" which is something Washington always feared. IRV might be the cure.
Old 03-21-2006, 01:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I can see what you are trying to get at..but I would definitely not consider America a "1 party system". Definitely a "divided, 2 party system" which is something Washington always feared. IRV might be the cure.

I have to say I agree with the poster. We truly have a 1 party system and they are looking to further lock the system.

What is going to happen in the world at that point is the question? Scary.
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Old 03-21-2006, 06:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Technically its two parties, but really its one party, because both are almost fully influenced by the same corporations. Its called contolled opposition. Democratic or Republican, it doesn't matter, you're going to see the same things happening in Washington. People who think they're completely different parties because of petty differences like abortion or gay marriage are being suckered into the controlled opposition. Kerry and Bush had fundementally the same doctrines; only Kerry was a taller and more articulate version of him.

If Kerry was president, we would still be in Iraq. Our environment would still be on its downward spiral. Its quite funny. People are quick to throw Bush into the far far right column, and Kerry into the far far left column. While actually Kerry and Bush share a lot of the same ideas, and Kerry is actually technically right-winged. Bush and Kerry are cousins (not figure of speech, they're actually related). Both belonged to the same secret organizations.
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Technically its two parties, but really its one party, because both are almost fully influenced by the same corporations. Its called contolled opposition. Democratic or Republican, it doesn't matter, you're going to see the same things happening in Washington. People who think they're completely different parties because of petty differences like abortion or gay marriage are being suckered into the controlled opposition. Kerry and Bush had fundementally the same doctrines; only Kerry was a taller and more articulate version of him.

If Kerry was president, we would still be in Iraq. Our environment would still be on its downward spiral. Its quite funny. People are quick to throw Bush into the far far right column, and Kerry into the far far left column. While actually Kerry and Bush share a lot of the same ideas, and Kerry is actually technically right-winged. Bush and Kerry are cousins (not figure of speech, they're actually related). Both belonged to the same secret organizations.

Just the fact that they have locked the system makes it a 1 party dictatorship.
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I find it amazing that anyone can still support this silly one party system that we have in this country. I say one party because the only differences between democrats and republicans are their views on abortion and the death penalty.

Congress is actually attempting to eliminate third parties officially: http://www.lp.org/media/article_284.shtml . So much for democracy.

In my opinion, the only way that we are going to make progress is if we massively change this political system that we have and create a more democratic society.
Considering you're an anarchist (anarcho-syndicalist, judging by your avatar), wouldn't you be opposed to ANY political party anyway?
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Considering you're an anarchist (anarcho-syndicalist, judging by your avatar), wouldn't you be opposed to ANY political party anyway?

Yes I am...but, any good anarchist knows that an anarchist society will not be realized until the masses are educated enough to engage in a real social revolution. So for the time being, I side with those who are at least fighting for some change, i.e. Socialist Party, and their idea of Democratic Socialism. If we can try and gain any kind of ground then that is great for now, granted not forever. But I do believe that even for an Anarchist like myself there is still an option.
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Old 03-26-2006, 02:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Kerry is actually technically right-winged.
uhh...I believe Kerry and Kennedy, senators of Massachusetts (very liberal state) are as liberal as you can get..
Old 03-26-2006, 02:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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uhh...I believe Kerry and Kennedy, senators of Massachusetts (very liberal state) are as liberal as you can get..

I would not consider Kerry a liberal.
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I would not consider Kerry a liberal.
Why? What and who is considered liberal to you?
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