Defending the Truth

I found this article today while watching "Wing Commander" (I love sci-fi) and found it describes my interactions with some of my friends on this site. I thought it described our "relationship" to a tee. Except the religious leaning parts of course. So I won't c@p those.

Homosexuals are especially fond of calling people haters. They even invented the word homophobia, which means hate and fear of homosexuals, envisaged as a mental illness. (A phobia is an anxiety disorder.)
I’ve pointed out the difference between hating people and hating their behavior (loving the sinner but hating the sin). They hated that.
Then I tried “walking my talk” by taking an ex-gay man who was dying of AIDS into my family. My wife and I and our children loved and cared for him during the last year of his life. They hated that even more.
Then I began asking for guidance from homosexuals themselves. “Tell me, where is the line between homophobia and acceptable opposition to homosexuality?” I asked. “What if I just agree with the Bible that homosexuality is a sin no worse than any other sex outside marriage?”
“No, that’s homophobic,” they said.
“Suppose I talk only about the proven medical hazards of gay sex and try to discourage people from hurting themselves?”
“No, you can’t do that,” they said.
“How about if I say that homosexuals have the option to change if they choose?”
“Ridiculous,” they answered.
“Maybe I could just be completely positive, say nothing about homosexuality, and focus only on promoting the natural family and traditional marriage?”
“That’s really hateful,” they replied.
After awhile, I realized that the only way I could get them to stop calling me a homophobe was to start agreeing with them about everything.

That's about all I think I can really agree with. I don't necessarily agree with the religious part, and the AIDS part can be debated, and I don't believe in "curing" people of homosexuality. But I guess even among "homophobic haters" there are degrees. LOL.

There is nothing about "tolerance" that says one must be tolerant of intolerance.

One is not a bigot if they will not accept bigotry.

And one is not a hater if they defend themselves against attacks.

Being open and tolerant does NOT mean being an emotional doormat for the ignorant and prejudiced.

The article posted is absurd as most of the questions posed are based on falsehoods.

As I pointed out, I disagree with a lot of what he said. But I feel the most important part of the whole piece was...
After awhile, I realized that the only way I could get them to stop calling me a homophobe was to start agreeing with them about everything.
Because while I admit I am an asshole in saying it, I have never advocated for anything except not calling the union a marriage. Yet some folk still call me a homophobe for feeling that way. There seems to be intolerance on both sides as far as I'm concerned. Not that I care. I just think he was right on with the above sentence.

Accepting a homosexual view of the deviation would be ignorant as far as I'm concerned.

That line is located in the same place as the line between xenophobia and acceptable opposition to people with a different skin color, heritage, handicap, or religious background.

And the same place as the line between misogyny and acceptable opposition to equal opportunity and equal pay for men and women in the workplace.

And the same place as the line between pedophilia and acceptable opposition to age of consent laws.

The place is called Semantic Fantasyland. It's a VERY small, imaginary place where people who cannot face the reality of their intolerance go to hide from their own ugliness.

I disagree. Race, gender, and even national heritage in no way compare to the illogical defect that is homosexuality. The similarities are in no way valid.

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And the same place as the line between misogyny and acceptable opposition to equal opportunity and equal pay for men and women in the workplace.

What differences are there for the homosexual? Is there a "gay" check on an application?

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And the same place as the line between pedophilia and acceptable opposition to age of consent laws.

Pedophilia has very little to do with age of consent laws. Prepubescent is well below the age of consent laws. Pedophilia is as dependent on law as homosexuality is. If we are gonna use legal as a reference, then Iran and Egypt are fully justified in hanging homosexuals since they should stop being homosexuals due to it's illegal status.

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The place is called Semantic Fantasyland. It's a VERY small, imaginary place where people who cannot face the reality of their intolerance go to hide from their own ugliness.

I disagree, it seems to me that some homosexuals occupy their own fantasyland where they don't see that they are disordered at least a little even to the people that smile in their face and tell them that they are normal. Because even among the people that agree with "gay rights" nearly all of them say they find something a bit off about the condition that is homosexual. That's not intolerance, that just human logical observation.

I know you disagree, fx, and you are certainly welcome to do so.

But that disagreement does not invalidate my view.
I stand by my position as stated above.

Homosexuals did not invent the word 'homophobia' - at least I don't think we did. It is, however, a phobia, like any other phobia, except it happens to be a phobia of homosexuals, mainly males.

To me, people have to accept someone for who they are. It's no good telling someone you don't hate the person, just their choices in life. I hate the fact that people deal drugs, but I don't hate the actual person they are inside. It's the opposite to what you say, but it's the same kind of thing, when you think about it.
Accepting someone should mean you accept their lifetsyle, no matter if you disagree.
However, feel free to disagree on this one.

I don't hate that fact you did this, it's a very honourable thing to do for someone. I do, however, feel a little strange that you cared for this man, while perhaps condemning his lifestyle choices.

I wouldn't necessarily say this is homophobic. I'd be more offended by the thought that someone feels that sex outside of marriage is a sin - too many couples have sex outside of marriage nowadays for it to even be considered a sin.

The 'proven' medical 'hazards' of gay sex only apply to homosexual males, I assume? If so, this would be the same for anyone who has ever engaged in anal sex, be they male or female.

This is the only thing that angers me about people, the idea that someone can just change their sexuality like they change a lightbulb. It isn't possible - if it was, heterosexuals could also change from heterosexual to homosexual if they wanted to.

I wouldn't say hateful, but I would argue about the 'natural family'. There is no natural family - we have children being fostered, adopted, raised by aunties, uncles, grandparents, and others besides a biological mother and father. There are so many different types of families, that it is impossible to say what, exactly, a 'natural' family even is.

You don't have to agree on everything. You are entitled to your views, as am I.
All I would ask for, as a gay woman myself, is acceptance, and respect for who I am as a person. After all, if we all had respect and acceptance for each other, the world would be a much better place.

It was a blog, those aren't my words. And a "phobia" is an irrational fear by the way. Homophobia is misused by many people.
MedlinePlus: Phobias
Merely finding homosexual aberrant has nothing to do with fear. I think it's aberrant to have sex with a sheep too. But I don't fear those that do. I doubt I'd qualify for zoophiliophobia.

I'd expect no less.

the definition of homophobia is a fear or an irrational aversion to homosexual or homosexuality.

it was coined by mental health professionals

fxashun's concern about the word 'marriage' (already moot, as we have gay marriages that are legal in America - and many other places in the world) is not the reason he's a homophobe.

his nasty comments such as " the illogical defect that is homosexuality" is what makes him both a homophobe - and a troll out baiting people by writing things that he knows will offend and insult them.