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Old 05-20-2006, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Couple Arrested For Asking For Directions

BALTIMORE -- Baltimore City police arrested a Virginia couple over the weekend after they asked an officer for directions.

WBAL-TV 11 News I-Team reporter David Collins said Joshua Kelly and Llara Brook, of Chantilly, Va., got lost leaving an Orioles game on Saturday. Collins reported a city officer arrested them for trespassing on a public street while they were asking for directions .

"In jail for eight hours -- sleeping on a concrete floor next to a toilet," Kelly said.

"It was a nightmare," Brook said. "I was in there thinking I was just dreaming and waiting to wake up."

Collins reported it was a nightmare ending to a nearly perfect day. He said the couple went to a company picnic and watched the Orioles beat Kansas City. It was their first trip to Camden Yards and asked two people for directions to Interstate 95 South when they left.

Collins said somehow they ended up in the Cherry Hill section of south Baltimore. Hopelessly lost, relief melted away concerns after they spotted a police vehicle.

"I said, 'Thank goodness, could you please get us to 95?" Kelly said.

"The first thing that she said to us was no -- you just ran that stop sign, pull over," Brook said. "It wasn't a big deal. We'll pay the stop sign violation, but can we have directions?"

"What she said was 'You found your own way in here, you can find your own way out.'" Kelly said.

Collins said the couple spotted another police vehicle and flagged that officer down for directions. But Officer Natalie Preston, a six-year veteran of the force, intervened.

"That really threw us for a loop when she stepped in between our cars," Kelly said. "(She) said my partner is not going to step in front of me and tell you directions if I'm not."

Collins reported the circumstances got worse. Kelly pulled 40 feet forward parking next to a curb and put his flashers on while Brook was on the phone to her father hoping he could help her with directions. Both her parents are police officers in the Harrisburg, Pa., area.

"(Brook's father) was in the middle of giving us directions when the officer screeched up behind us and got out of the car and asked me to step out. I obeyed," Kelly said. "I obeyed everything -- stepped out of the car, put my hands behind my back, and the next thing I know, I was getting arrested for trespassing."

"By this time, I was completely in tears," Brook said. "I said, 'Ma'am, you know, we just need your help. We are not trying to cause you any trouble. I'm not leaving him here.' What she did was walk over to my side of the car and said, 'Ok, we are taking you downtown, too.'"

Collins said the couple was released from jail without being charged with anything. Brook is now concerned the arrest may complicate a criminal background check she's going through in her job as a child care worker.

Collins said police left Kelly's car unlocked and the windows down at the impound lot. He reported a cell phone charger, pair of sunglasses and 20 CDs were stolen.

Baltimore City police said they are looking into the incident.
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I've lived within 45 minutes of Baltimore most of my life. It is a small hell on earth. A poor, industrial disease.
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There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.

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By MONICA DAVEY

Published: May 20, 2006

CHICAGO, May 19 — A judge here ruled on Friday that a special prosecutor's report on accusations of torture by Chicago police officers over two decades should be made public, as a United Nations panel in Geneva urged American authorities to investigate the claims further.

The result of an investigation that has taken four years and cost Cook County more than $5 million, the report is likely to be released in several weeks, prosecutors said.

The investigation stems from accusations by 192 people that police officers at two city stations tortured them — beating them, shocking them with electric devices and trying to suffocate them — from the 1970's to the early 1990's.

"After the third torture session, I understood that these guys weren't going to let me out of there alive if I didn't say what they wanted," said David Bates, who was among the people whose cases were investigated by the special prosecutor. Mr. Bates said police beat him and covered his head with a typewriter cover in 1983 until he confessed to a crime he says he did not commit.

About two dozen people marched outside of the criminal courthouse on Friday morning, calling on Circuit Judge Paul P. Biebel Jr. to make the report public, though lawyers for some of the officers have argued it should be kept from public view.

Judge Biebel, responding to inquiries from prosecutors as to whether they could make the report public, said the public's right to learn details of the investigation outweighed the privacy rights of individual officers.

"The release of the report will address the issues which have led to rumor and speculation which have spread unimpeded over the fabric of the Cook County criminal justice system for more than 30 years," he wrote.

Spokeswomen for the city of Chicago's law department and for the police department said those entities supported release of the report.

Many of the accusers have pointed to officers who were overseen by Commander Jon Burge, who was fired from the Chicago Police Department in 1993. Richard Sikes, a lawyer who represents Mr. Burge in three lawsuits against him, said he has seen no signs of torture in the cases he has handled.

He suggested that Mr. Burge may have become a magnet for people in Chicago who want to claim they were wrongfully convicted, saying, "I think there's a lot of bandwagon here, in my view."

In Geneva, the United Nations Committee against Torture released its own report, which, along with calling on the United States to close the detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and criticizing interrogation techniques, took note of the "limited investigation and lack of prosecution" in connection to the accusations of torture in Chicago.

It called on American authorities to "promptly, thoroughly and impartially" investigate the accusations, and provide the committee with more information.

It was uncertain whether the special prosecutor's report in Chicago could lead to indictments.

Robert D. Boyle, who was appointed as assistant special state's attorney in the case beside Edward J. Egan, the special prosecutor, said the report had to be "fine-tuned" and was not yet ready for release. In addition, a small part of it, including identifying information about a former assistant state's attorney, will not be made public for at least two weeks, a second judge ruled on Friday.
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A lot of cops are just weak people who have authority/power complexes...that's when you get stories like this.
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A lot of cops are just weak people who have authority/power complexes...that's when you get stories like this.
That's exactly right. That profession is always going to attract a certain percent of people like that, just like Catholic priesthood has attracted a certiain % of pedophiles.
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That's exactly right. That profession is always going to attract a certain percent of people like that, just like Catholic priesthood has attracted a certiain % of pedophiles.
Serious question that is not able to be proven - and to be answered by anybody:

What percentage of cops are just jackasses on a power-trip, as opposed to the cops that really are excellent people?

I'd say the jackasses are only about 5% or less.


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Serious question that is not able to be proven - and to be answered by anybody:

What percentage of cops are just jackasses on a power-trip, as opposed to the cops that really are excellent people?

I'd say the jackasses are only about 5% or less.


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I would say that policemen have about the same percentage of jackasses as any other division of mankind. However we as a species tend to define other humans by the jackasses representing them. So like only a few jackass policemen ruin it for all of them, some bombers ruin it for me, some black pushers in a ghetto ruin it for the blacks, bush ruins it for the americans, saddam ruins it for the iraqis and just about any other prejudice people have against other people.
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Yeah, you don't read news stories about how Joe and Sally got pulled over for speeding and could not have been treated more respectfully. You hear the stories about the jackasses. This doesn't really upset me. Stories make the news and people get angry; unless there's some kind of backwards-ass policeman loyalty thing going on, that cop is probably going to get in trouble or fired. Someone needs to hold an asshole like this accountable...might as well be the public.
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Serious question that is not able to be proven - and to be answered by anybody:

What percentage of cops are just jackasses on a power-trip, as opposed to the cops that really are excellent people?

I'd say the jackasses are only about 5% or less.


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I'd have to agree. If you are nice and courteous to a cop, they will return the favor 99% of the time. If your a hard ass and you interrupt the cop while he/she is speaking, yes you are going to EASILY piss them off.
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