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Old 05-28-2006, 11:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Kissinger told China communist takeover in Vietnam was acceptable: documents

WASHINGTON (AP) - Former U.S. secretary of state Henry Kissinger quietly acknowledged to China in 1972 that Washington could accept a communist takeover of South Vietnam if that evolved after a withdrawal of U.S. troops - even as the war to drive back the Communists dragged on with mounting deaths.

The late U.S. president Richard Nixon's envoy told Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai: "If we can live with a communist government in China, we ought to be able to accept it in Indochina."

Kissinger's blunt remarks surfaced in a collection of papers from his years of diplomacy released Friday by George Washington University's National Security Archive. The collection was gathered from documents available at the U.S. government's National Archives and obtained through the research group's declassification requests.

Kissinger's comments appear to lend credence to the "decent interval" theory posed by some historians who said the United States was prepared to see Communists take over Saigon, as long as that happened long enough after a U.S. troop departure to save face.
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Kissinger Acknowledgement Demonstrates the Right was Wrong Again Email Print

The paradox is that the right has been proven wrong again and again, as well as hypocritical. The hypocrisy was blatant in the case of the Vietnam War, a track record now being equaled if not surpassed by the Cheney-Bush brigade's actions and comments on the Iraq War.

Currently those who dare criticize Cheney, Bush and other administration operatives for rushing America to war on demonstrably proven false information are denounced as damaging America at a time the country is waging a war against terrorism.

Better than a generation ago Nixon and his hired guns declared themselves to be seeking to perpetuate freedom on behalf of the "silent majority," and were allegedly being opposed by those who were accused of "running down America."

It was a period of turbulent division that saw scores of American young men leave the country and travel to Canada, some never to return, rather than go to Vietnam to fight in a war they genuinely believed to be wrong.

Hand wringing flag wavers denounced them as "traitors" and "cowards," swallowing the Nixon Administration line that if Communism was not halted in Vietnam that we would have a fight on our hands with hordes of Asians seeking to invade our shores.
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Vietnam — Still

Fighting for the same freedoms, 30 years on.

By Paul Marshall

Since what happened in Vietnam 30 years ago is a hot topic these days, it's worth asking what's happening there now. The answer is not edifying: The Communist government is currently engaged in a massive crackdown on two overlapping bodies, its ethnic minorities and its religious believers.

Proclaiming a new era of openness, on June 18, the national assembly's standing committee passed an "ordinance regarding religious beliefs and religious organizations," due to come into effect on November 15. (Translation here.) The authorities say the ordinance will guarantee "citizens' freedom of belief and religion," and Article 1 does affirm, "The government guarantees the right of freedom of religious beliefs and of having a religion for its citizens. Nobody is permitted to violate this freedom." However, this is followed by 40 articles that gut this guarantee almost completely.
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It will not happen!
Approximately 58,000 Americans as Cannon Fodder and 3,000,000 Vietnamese and still no change!

More failed foreign policy awaits U.S. in Iraq!

BRING THEM HOME NOW!
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The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. - - ARTICLE II, SECTION 4 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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