I saw X-Man 3 last night on a HUGE screen (90ft wide).

Pretty good. I saw the other two so... you know, gotta see the third.

Some people complained about some plot problems in regards to the mutant powers... eh, what do they expect from a mutant movie?

Good action, wolverine is the shit. If you see it stay for the credits.


7 out of 10 stars
hevusa 06/04/06

Hella spoilers ahead!













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OK, I'm a comic book nerd, so I am probably more critical than most...

But DAMN, I am not happy with X-Men 3. I suppose three good comic book movies in a row might be too much to ask for, but seriously...

Here are some of my problems with the movie.

1. Professor X and Magneto were both portrayed as total douchebags. I mean, sure, Magneto's a villain, but in the first movie he felt guilty about killing one mutant. "The pawns go first?" what was that!?! I mean, if Arclight could have disarmed all of those guys, fewer of his minions would have died. That just seemed pointless. As for Professor X, there is really no excuse.

2. Storm is a weakling. This didn't bother me as much in the other movies, because at least the other characters were well developed, but dang! This also brings me to one of the asshole things Professor X did. "Yeah, Scott's too emo to run the school now, so you're my second choice."

3. No one noticed Scott was dead, or even missing for waaay too long. Also, no one seemed to care that Scott was dead.

4. Beast's costume wasn't very good. Mystique and Nightcrawler's costumes were excellent, so there's really no excuse.

5. Angel was just there. What was the point?

6. Callisto is not one of Magneto's lackeys! She's supposed to be the leader of an underground group of mutants.

7. Juggernaut's costume... And basically his whole character.

8. OK, so Pyro works for Magneto now, and suddenly he has no personality beyond smirking lackey?

I could go on, but I won't.

Ditto.
Maybe we should just designate this as the "spoiler" thread













The comics have been making Professor X a LOT darker these days.
Did you read the "X-Men Deadly Genesis" comic series that came out recently?
Talk about power corrupts, and absolute power...


If by "Storm is a weakling", you're talking about the movie portrayal, then I second all of that.
Otherwise, I would disagree regarding how weak she is in the comics. I think she's a pretty strong character in the comics.


Feh. He'll be back next movie anyways.
Jean Grey was, wasn't she?

But you're right that the whole emotion thing over the first death was bizarrely lacking.

I heard that this movie had some pretty strong political overtones as to current events, and I agree.
A way to continue this in the next movie, and bring back Scott and Jean Grey, is to introduce a new player and a new hot topic. Mr. Sinister and cloning.
The comics already have him cloning Jean Grey. He's got an interest in Cyclops, so it's not a stretch that he would have his DNA also.
Bring back Jean Grey with Sinister altering her DNA to make her weaker. (Their interpretation of "Dark Phoenix" was annoying!)
Also bring back Cyclops as a clone. Have them fight besides Mr. Sinister, but feel conflicted in their desire to do so...


They went too much with the "leather" look...
Understandably, spandex may be kind of cheesy, but they have shown virtually no imagination on the issue of costuming...


Shut up!
For some of us, he's fun to look at and ....
... and he's rich so he can help keep the school open, and ...
...um...
Shut up!



They had a semblance of the "underground group of mutants" idea, but it was really, really, weak.
And the whole "inking" themselves to show their Mutant mark? Cheesy!


You mean the obviously fake muscle thing?
They could have done a LOT better...


LOL.
But on the flip side, if they HAD given him a personality, that would have been YET ANOTHER mutant character that they would have given "story" to that splintered the whole show...
Rogue had a story-line. Bobby had a story-line. Kitty Pryde had a story-line.
There were so many story-lines for the characters they had no real time to adequately go into them...


I liked it for what it was. It was a lot heavier on action than on story this time around, and that DID result in a lot of "issues" with the story-line ...

And, I'm going to add a 9 to your list...
9) The "permanent" no power thing. They've kind of stated that they aren't going to do another sequel. And to some extent, it's kind of interesting how they have a LOT of names who come together to make this. Coordinating that can't be easy.
But regardless, the ending (and the post-credit 'ending') SCREAMS for a sequel.
Except Magneto has no powers. Rogue is powerless. Mystique is ...
I'm more upset over Mystique losing her powers than Magneto...

Another annoyance with the plot is that if they DO make a sequel (and for about $120 million the first four days, you can bet they've got incentive), you can be dollars do doughnuts that they'll do something cheesy like ...
"It was only a temporary effect, and there was insufficient testing to realize that. It wears off in six months."
or "Mutant <insert name here> comes along and has the power to revitalize mutant powers, or to awaken latent mutant abilities..."
or " <insert cheesy plot story here>"

Haha. I heard some people talking just like your post as I was walking out.

I didn't read the comics and I was drinking from my flask throughout the movie so I was very much entertained.

But I hear you on the Scott being dead thing. And Beast's costume did suck. But I don't think Professor X was made out too much like a douche.

All the other comic book things you said I have no idea what you are talking about.

The movie actually reminded me about the gay marriage "cure" thread

Alright! Another comic book aficinado!


Honestly, I stopped reading the 616 universe after House of M, and after they "killed" Northstar. Cheesy, I know, but I love Alpha Fight, and what they did to Chamber, while it was interesting, was basically inexcusable.



I am complaining about the movie.
Comic book Storm rips Marrow's heart out with her bare hands, and had a kickin' white mohawk for a while. Movie storm is just lame.


Well, death is a revolving door at Marvel. As they say, no one in comics stays dead except for Bucky, Jason Todd, Ted Korg, and Uncle Ben.

I actually didn't really see it. The second one seemed more politically relevant to me.

And they'd have an excuse to introduce Gambit! I agree, the "splinter personality" Phoenix was pretty lame.



The fur looked really, really fake.


You know I'm right.



Yeah... And the Magneto flashing his concentration camp tattoo was just tasteless.


And what was with that stupid harness helmet thing he was wearing?


Bobby and Pyro angst > Rogue thinking that bobby is cheating or something, plot wise. Rogue getting rid of her powers really wasn't developed enough, although I look forward to the next movie where she accidentally kills someone after she gets her powers back.

I like a good plot better than action. I think that's what made the other two so much better than the average action flick.

Yeah, Mystique losing her powers sucks and blows at the same time. She was AWESOME. On the plus side, she'll probably get them back, as was heavily hinted by Magneto moving that chess piece.

Leech could die. That wouldn't be cheesy.

I was really high and I have to say I did not enjoy it as much as the others. There is something about it that I didn't like but I can't really recall. I should probably go see it again. I probably will. I will be just as high but I'll probably remember more. I was very entertained though. That much is true.

You might remember more if you see the movie when you're not high. The downside, of course, will be that you will probably be less entertained.

Yeah.
There are/were plotlines where I'm just wondering "What are they thinking..." It's like, at times, they hate the characters they are writing about.


I had forgotten about the Marrow thing. Yeah. That's got to be the penultimate Storm moment...


That reminds me of something I'ld been meaning to post...
X-Men: South Park style...
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL-MOZT9tlo

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NkDtgu9FbU

Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne1EBdVFbro


Yeah.
In retrospect, I think his father may have had more lines than he did...


The whole "tattoo" thing was just dumb. To me, it just seemed like an excuse to get to that scene, and that's all they needed it for...


I'm wondering how much time was cut from the movie. The DVD could have deleted scenes which could elaborate on some of that stuff.


Another future possibility is that with Mystique and Rogue both human, maybe they'll bump into each other in the "next" movie while human. Mother and step-daughter angst?

That's probably true. I think I was really captivated by the potential of the story in the previews, then was disappointed to find out the plot wasn't as intriguing. It was still pretty sick. I just think the first two really built up the plot potential for the third, and the third just kind of didn't do much. They could have written Magneto's lines with some more thoughfulness instead of his absolute trying to make him sound like a terrorist lines. I was also just not expecting an unconclusive ending at all. I mean, it's cool that there is going to be a fourth movie, but I just thought it was going to be more conclusive. I think the second movie was so interesting because everything was very intriguing about Wolverine finding out about his past, eerie flashbacks and such.