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Old 08-08-2006, 12:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Galloway On "sky News"
Brittish MP: George Galloway, wipes the floor with 'Sky News' anchor on Israeli aggression in Lebanon and Palestine.


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Old 08-08-2006, 02:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That dude was pissed
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I agree with him, and we need more people like him. However, nothing justifies terror attacks; both Hezbollah and Israeli. Hezbollah is a horrible organization because it uses horrible tactics to resist, just as Hamas. What those organizations need to use is non-violent resistance, but if they're going to use violence, at least military resistance against the Israeli occupiers, not innocent civilians.
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Galloway is just another loud-mouthed limp dick screwball. He's as corrupt as the day is long. He is a useful idiot for the terrorists and a pawn for Hezbully. If I met him face to face, I'd spit right in his eye. He would just walk away and cry because he's nothing but a coward with a loud mouth.
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Galloway is just another loud-mouthed limp dick screwball. He's as corrupt as the day is long. He is a useful idiot for the terrorists and a pawn for Hezbully. If I met him face to face, I'd spit right in his eye.
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You are a Zionist hand puppet....thanks...we got it!
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You are a Zionist hand puppet....thanks...we got it!
Blah, blah, blah. Stick it up your fucking ass. You're just a mouthpiece for Islamofacists who murder people because they hate people of another religion or race. You're buddies are getting their ass kicked pretty good. No cease fire until your buddies are toast. Cry me a river you little piss ant.

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Blah, blah, blah. Stick it up your fucking ass. You're just a mouthpiece for Islamofacists who murder people because they hate people of another religion or race. You're buddies are getting their ass kicked pretty good. No cease fire until your buddies are toast. Cry me a river you little piss ant.

Why are you so "pro Jew?"

Dont you think maybe someone is manipulating you....maybe on TV or Radio?


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Why are you so "pro Jew?"

Dont you think maybe someone is manipulating you....maybe on TV or Radio?


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So does being anti-terrorist make you "pro jew" (your word's)?
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Why are you so "pro Jew?"

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I'm pro human beings. I'm pro everyone living in peace. I'm pro not killing people because they are a different religion or race than you. You're not. You're a nazi and a facist. You should be hung by your nuts until dead. It is directly because of people like you that this shit is going on. You and your friends are directly responsible for the killing going on in Lebanon, not the jews. You started this shit and now it is going to end with the killing of thousands of innocents and thousands of brain-washed terrorists. Go look in a mirror and you will see who is responsible for all the killing.

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I'm pro human beings. I'm pro everyone living in peace.
Then you would be for a ceasefire, and negotiations. Two things that Hezbollah offered numerous times but the Israelis refused.

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I'm pro not killing people because they are a different religion or race than you. You're not. You're a nazi and a facist. You should be hung by your nuts until dead. It is directly because of people like you that this shit is going on. You and your friends are directly responsible for the killing going on in Lebanon, not the jews. You started this shit and now it is going to end with the killing of thousands of innocents and thousands of brain-washed terrorists. Go look in a mirror and you will see who is responsible for all the killing.
I agree that anti-semitism is a belief shrowded in ignorance. To some people when they see the attrocities of Israel, they for some reason get mad at Jews. And then really stupid things go down like in Seattle. And I agree that Lucidthots has fallen victim to this ignorance.

However, I think its completely irresponsible to think the Israeli's aren't directly responsible for the acts which they are doing. Are you claiming the Israeli's have no control over their armed forces? The Israelis have the power to chose their own policies, and their own wartime tactics. Consequently they have chosen a policy in which the innocent suffer. A policy which is only backed by "well they did it to us!".

You have said numerous times that you're probably older than the rest of us on this forum, then it should be clear to you that this conflict didn't start weeks ago with the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers, it started long ago. Palestine is at the heart of the matter. Thousands of Palestinians were kicked out of their homes. Some now live in Jordan, but many live in Gaza and the West Bank. I don't know why you don't see this, but West Bank is under military occupation (and Golan Heights for that matter) by the Israelis. Gaza was under military occupation until the ground forces pulled out in an attempt to create the illusion of freedom. However, anyone with basic unskewed knowlege of the situation knows that Gaza is under constant attack from Israel; assassinations, artillery bombings, kinappings, economic strangulation, and so on. And anyone with basic unskewed knowlege knows there is a slow take-over of the West Bank.

Israel and its policies are guilty of attrocities. And then because of unflinching bias in news outlets, there is a great confusion to exactly why there are organizations that fight Israel. There are the small radical organizations that you are right in saying that they want to see all Israelis and Jews pushed into the Mediterranean. But the majority of Palestinians only want the occupations to end, and Israeli aggression to end so that they can form a stable government and economy. Most don't want to see the total destruction of Israel, only the end of Israel's policies of colonialism and brutal occupation.

So its utterly stupid to assume the Lebanese and Palestinians are directly responsible. Israel has the power over their policies. They have the power to live in peace if they want it. Unfortunately, with them, there is no compromise. Even as Israeli-biased the UN Resolution is, they want nothing to do with it. Even when Hezbollah said they were willing to have a ceasefire and go into negotiations for possible de-militarization of Hezbollah, Israel refused. Why? Because negotiations means they have to give concessions. Maybe they have to stop the slow take-over of the West Bank. Maybe they have to release many innocent Lebanese prisoners. But its ignorance mostly. Israel believes for the most part that the Lebanese should be punished for not getting rid of Hezbollah. And they think Palestinians should be punished for voting in Hamas in a democratic election.

The irony of it all, however, is that this "punishing" will only galvanize the Palestinian and Lebanese populations into supporting these radical groups even more. And peace and co-existance will only move further away from being a reality.
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