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Old 10-03-2006, 11:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Bombing Of Iran Soon
If and when Bush 'Iraqs' Iran
By Arnaud de Borchgrave
October 3, 2006


A strategic thinker who called all the correct diplomatic and military plays preceding Operation Iraqi Freedom now sees diplomatic failure and air strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities. The war on Iran, he says, started a year ago when the U.S. began conducting secret recon missions inside Iran.
Sam Gardiner, 67, has taught strategy at the National War College, Air War College and Naval War College. The retired Air Force colonel recently published as a Century Foundation Report "The End of the 'Summer of Diplomacy': Assessing the U.S. Military Option on Iran."
President Bush and his national security council believe seven "key truths" that eliminate all but the military option, according to Mr. Gardiner, who adds his own comments:
(1) Iran is developing weapons of mass destruction -- "that is most likely true."
(2) Iran is ignoring the international community -- "true."
(3) Iran supports Hezbollah and terrorism -- "true."
(4) Iran is increasingly inserting itself in Iraq and beginning to get involved in Afghanistan -- "true."
(5) The people of Iran want a regime change -- "most likely an exaggeration."
(6) Sanctions won't work -- "most likely true."
(7) You cannot negotiate with these people -- "not proven."
Mr. Gardiner says when Bush "Iraqs" Iran, air strikes will not be limited to the country's widely scattered nuclear facilities, but will also include military air bases (some of them only 15 minutes flying time from Baghdad); air defense command and control; terrorist training camps; chemical facilities, medium-range ballistic missiles; Gulf-threatening assets; submarines; anti-ship missiles, naval ships, including small, fast minelayers. He reckons "an attack of relatively high certainty on nuclear targets would require 400 aim points... 75 of these would require penetrating weapons." Air target planners believe this can be done after five nights of bombing.
Vice President Dick Cheney's is convinced "if there is even a 1 percent chance of a country passing WMD to a terrorist, the U.S. must act," Mr. Gardiner writes, which means, "The Bush administration finds itself obliged to reject nonmilitary options." Israeli pressure on Mr. Bush to act before he leaves the White House is also part of the equation, he argues. But the president has a larger agenda than simply retarding Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Iran's interference in Iraq is a major source of concern. It continues to supply weapons, funding and training to insurgents as well as militia armies in Iraq. Those who advocate attacking Iran say this justifies U.S. retaliation. But Israel and the Bush administration agree they cannot allow Iran to acquire the knowledge to make a nuclear weapon and that Iran is near "the point of no return."
"The case against [Iran's] regime is so forceful, and so multifaceted," Mr. Gardiner points out, "that it becomes clear the goal is not simply to do away with the regime's enrichment program... but to do away with the regime itself."
President Bush, writes Mr. Gardiner, sees himself like Winston Churchill standing against the appeasers, "believes the world will only appreciate him after he leaves office, talks about the Middle East in messianic terms, and is said to have told those close to him that he has got to attack Iran because even if a Republican succeeds him... he will not have the same freedom of action that Bush enjoys."
Mr. Gardiner reminds us air planners almost always fall short of promises -- e.g., World War II, Korea, Vietnam and more recently Israeli air attacks on Hezbollah. "No serious expert on Iran believes the argument about enabling a regime change," he says, and "it is far more likely such strikes would strengthen the clerical leadership and turn the U.S. into Iran's permanent enemy." Which is what President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad prays for five times a day.
Iran's retaliatory capabilities are both regional and global. Hezbollah is the primary line of counterattack with terrorist assets in Europe, Canada, the U.S. and Latin America. Iraqi militia leader Muqtada al-Sadr has said publicly U.S. forces would be targeted if Iran were attacked. Sheik al-Sadr also controls the large 140,000-strong Facilities Protection Service forces that guard oil pipelines and other strategic objectives.
No sooner does the first U.S. bomb impact in Iran, mines will be sown in the Strait of Hormuz through which 40 percent of the world's oil consumption passes daily. Iran also has sleeper cells among Shi'ite workers in Saudi Arabia's eastern oil fields. Oil would quickly skyrocket to $200 a barrel. With prices surging to this level, concludes Mr. Gardiner, a "global synchronized recession, intensified by the existing U.S. trade and fiscal imbalances" would soon follow.
Syria and Iran signed a mutual defense agreement June 15 under which Syrian forces would be involved if Iran were attacked. Such a crisis could quickly escalate into a regional war.
Unlike the six months' preparations for Operation Desert Field and the deployments that preceded Iraqi Freedom, the Iran buildup will "not be a major CNN event." They will take place below the media's radar screen, such as moving Air Force tankers to staging bases and additional Navy assets to the region. "We can expect the number of administration references to Iran to significantly increase," Mr. Gardiner wrote, with three principal themes -- Iran's nuclear program, terrorism, the threat to Israel's existence, and the Iran-al Qaeda link.

Congressional approval? When Democratic members of Congress offered an amendment to the Defense bill in June that would have required the president to get authorization before taking military action, the amendment failed. A strike on Iran, as seen by the White House, has already been authorized. It's part of the global war on terrorism. So the strike on Iran could be ordered any time in the next two years.

Arnaud de Borchgrave is editor at large of The Washington Times and of United Press International.

If and when Bush 'Iraqs' Iran - Commentary - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper

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Old 10-04-2006, 07:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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probably.. but the rest of the world is first gonna scream and then they are gonna laugh at the unceasing stupidity of the USA..

If the US bombs Iran it will have the following consequences:

1) The US will confirm its status as imperialist bully
2) The average american will bear the brunt of the expense.. each bomb costs many hundreds of thousands of dollars.
3) The US will lose support of the EU and UN.
4) China will condemn the action.
5) India will condemn the action ( they may be hindu but don't forget the voted in favor of Iran in the UN security council resolution on sanctions)
6) Thousands of innocent civilians will die as a result ( but i suppose that doesn't matter.. at least they are not american)
7) The clerics experience exponential increase in support.. after all the iranis would rather be bullied by their OWN than the Imperialist US.
Terrorist groups like AQ and Hezbollah will experience exponential increase in support from the average arab AND and exponential increase in the number of youths volunteering for suicide missions.
9) The US will confirm its status as the AGGRESSOR.. remember Iran has taken no open violent action against the US.
10) Most countries will cease to invest money in the US.. this has already started happening with middle eastern money being channelled to Pakistan, India, or just staying in states like Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain or Qatar.
11) Oil prices will skyrocket. This will hit the US 10 times harder than any nation.
12) Iran will gain more and more support in the world.
13) The US will essentially shoot itself in the foot.

But be my guest... i suppose the power of the US is drawing to a close anyhow so there is no reason it shouldn't happen in a blaze of glory..

But tell me this much... how can you possibly not see that bombing Iran is a bad idea for the US??

Of course the above article also gives plenty of reason why Iran SHOULDN'T be bombed.. how can you take the attack part seriously and not the rest??

incidentally you should check out the following link

Hezbollah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just to give you an idea.. like the fact that AQ and Hezbollah follow two different directions of Islam, so there can be no ideological compatibility.. but i suppose that doesn't matter either.. it just SOUNDS better to say that they are all in it together no??
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we will see how the US will attack iran, specially when russia and china are against military actions.. and not to forget US already lost one of its allies, FRANCE.. so now there is left only UK and Germany... and Germany isn't a big fan of US either specially when most of the countries are against military actions..

so lets wish them americans great luck attacking iran..
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I hope we don't attack Iran. Our army is spread to thin already. We shouldn't attack Iran until Iraq is sorted out, and that could take a decade. Luckily, defense estimates say that Iran's nuclear program might take that long to develop, or even longer.
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Waiting until the nukes are developed is suicide. Iran has already attacked America through Hezbully attacking Israel. An attack on Israel is an attack on America. It will come and the sooner the better. Probably after the first of the year, but it will come. We can knock out their sites with strategic bombing and little civilian casualties, but we know the propaganda artists will say we killed 100,000 civilians no matter what so who cares. What matters is the safety of America. The rest of the world can go to hell and kiss our ass.
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Quote:
(1) Iran is developing weapons of mass destruction -- "that is most likely true."
(2) Iran is ignoring the international community -- "true."
(3) Iran supports Hezbollah and terrorism -- "true."
(4) Iran is increasingly inserting itself in Iraq and beginning to get involved in Afghanistan -- "true."
(5) The people of Iran want a regime change -- "most likely an exaggeration."
(6) Sanctions won't work -- "most likely true."
(7) You cannot negotiate with these people -- "not proven."
Hmm.. I'm seeing some similarities...
1. The US has already developed weapons of mass destruction, and it has already used them, twice.
2. The US is ignoring the international community.
3. The US apparently protects some terrorists, such as Luis Posada Carriles from Venezuela.
4. The US has "inserted" itself in Iraq and Afghanistan, and does not appear to be leaving any time soon.
5. The people of the US want a regime change.
6. Sanctions have not been tried.
7. You cannot negotiate with these people.

In my opinion, the US has *already* shot itself in the foot in Iraq. We'd be shooting ourselves in the other foot if we started a war with Iran.

In my opinion, *anyone* can use violence to settle a conflict. It takes a much stronger person (or country) to settle a conflict with non-violence.

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[quote=alias;54744]Iran has already attacked America through Hezbully attacking Israel. An attack on Israel is an attack on America. [quote]

Since when did Israel become a state in our union???

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Since when did Israel become a state in our union???
Israel is our ally. We have an obligation to protect our allies.
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Since when did Israel become a state in our union???
1948. An Attack on Israel is the same as an attack on America. They are an ally. An attack on America is the same as an attack on Great Britain and vice versa. They are our ally. This is the way the world works. Everyone has allies. It's called survival.
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1948. An Attack on Israel is the same as an attack on America. They are an ally. An attack on America is the same as an attack on Great Britain and vice versa. They are our ally. This is the way the world works. Everyone has allies. It's called survival.

Israel is a nation of parasites....not an ally.
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