| Gun Control Debate and defend whether or not you believe that the second amendment protects individual rights to bear arms. |
08-02-2005, 01:26 PM
|
#1 (permalink)
| | Council Member
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rome, Italy
Posts: 1,214
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Level up: 49%, 43 Points needed | | it is not the gun companies fault that people go out and shoot people but when they sell guns like semi automatics or even automatics, which aren't used for hunting, shootings of any kind are their fault because of those types of guns.
but it is still the gun owners decision to go out and shoot up the victims. so im kind of confused and in the middle on this one.
i think one of the moderators should continue this discussion in another forum.
__________________ -- San Fernando Valley's where it's at |
| |
08-02-2005, 01:32 PM
|
#2 (permalink)
| | Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,733
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Level up: 56%, 142 Points needed | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by prescott911 it is not the gun companies fault that people go out and shoot people but when they sell guns like semi automatics or even automatics, which aren't used for hunting, shootings of any kind are their fault because of those types of guns.
but it is still the gun owners decision to go out and shoot up the victims. so im kind of confused and in the middle on this one.
i think one of the moderators should continue this discussion in another forum. | I think it is ridiculous they sell guns with such destructive capability such as a semi automatic. But I put none of the blame on the gun company, they cannot be responsible for the idiots that handle their guns... Its a ridiculous argument.
__________________ Godbless, Tadpole.
“I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.”
-John McCain
"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution.
You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."
-Jamie Raskin |
| |
08-02-2005, 01:34 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
| | Super Moderator
Country: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.)
Gender:
Posts: 8,493
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 26,333, Level: 96 | Level up: 97%, 17 Points needed | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy Quote: |
Originally Posted by prescott911 it is not the gun companies fault that people go out and shoot people but when they sell guns like semi automatics or even automatics, which aren't used for hunting, shootings of any kind are their fault because of those types of guns.
but it is still the gun owners decision to go out and shoot up the victims. so im kind of confused and in the middle on this one.
i think one of the moderators should continue this discussion in another forum. | I think it is ridiculous they sell guns with such destructive capability such as a semi automatic. But I put none of the blame on the gun company, they cannot be responsible for the idiots that handle their guns... Its a ridiculous argument. |
Nations with better gun control than America have less violent crime. Makes sense to me. |
| |
08-02-2005, 01:37 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
| | Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,733
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Level up: 56%, 142 Points needed | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by hevusa Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy Quote: |
Originally Posted by prescott911 it is not the gun companies fault that people go out and shoot people but when they sell guns like semi automatics or even automatics, which aren't used for hunting, shootings of any kind are their fault because of those types of guns.
but it is still the gun owners decision to go out and shoot up the victims. so im kind of confused and in the middle on this one.
i think one of the moderators should continue this discussion in another forum. | I think it is ridiculous they sell guns with such destructive capability such as a semi automatic. But I put none of the blame on the gun company, they cannot be responsible for the idiots that handle their guns... Its a ridiculous argument. |
Nations with better gun control than America have less violent crime. Makes sense to me. | How? Violence has been engraved in our culture, the mass believe that they should carry a gun around for protection doing nomore than supporting their right to bare arms. You cannot blame the gun companies for the decisions that their buyers make.
__________________ Godbless, Tadpole.
“I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.”
-John McCain
"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution.
You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."
-Jamie Raskin |
| |
08-02-2005, 01:40 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
| | Super Moderator
Country: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.)
Gender:
Posts: 8,493
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 26,333, Level: 96 | Level up: 97%, 17 Points needed | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy Quote: |
Originally Posted by hevusa Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy Quote: |
Originally Posted by prescott911 it is not the gun companies fault that people go out and shoot people but when they sell guns like semi automatics or even automatics, which aren't used for hunting, shootings of any kind are their fault because of those types of guns.
but it is still the gun owners decision to go out and shoot up the victims. so im kind of confused and in the middle on this one.
i think one of the moderators should continue this discussion in another forum. | I think it is ridiculous they sell guns with such destructive capability such as a semi automatic. But I put none of the blame on the gun company, they cannot be responsible for the idiots that handle their guns... Its a ridiculous argument. |
Nations with better gun control than America have less violent crime. Makes sense to me. | How? Violence has been engraved in our culture, the mass believe that they should carry a gun around for protection doing nomore than supporting their right to bare arms. You cannot blame the gun companies for the decisions that their buyers make. | The gun companies are so far up our governments ass that it is hard not to blame them. But I blame our lazy ass populous more for letting them be there in the first place. |
| |
08-02-2005, 01:48 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
| | Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,733
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Level up: 56%, 142 Points needed | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by hevusa Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy Quote: |
Originally Posted by hevusa Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy Quote: |
Originally Posted by prescott911 it is not the gun companies fault that people go out and shoot people but when they sell guns like semi automatics or even automatics, which aren't used for hunting, shootings of any kind are their fault because of those types of guns.
but it is still the gun owners decision to go out and shoot up the victims. so im kind of confused and in the middle on this one.
i think one of the moderators should continue this discussion in another forum. | I think it is ridiculous they sell guns with such destructive capability such as a semi automatic. But I put none of the blame on the gun company, they cannot be responsible for the idiots that handle their guns... Its a ridiculous argument. |
Nations with better gun control than America have less violent crime. Makes sense to me. | How? Violence has been engraved in our culture, the mass believe that they should carry a gun around for protection doing nomore than supporting their right to bare arms. You cannot blame the gun companies for the decisions that their buyers make. | The gun companies are so far up our governments ass that it is hard not to blame them. But I blame our lazy ass populous more for letting them be there in the first place. | So I take it, you disagree with our right to bare arms?
I have never held a gun in my life but am not going to take away someones right to do so. Even if we were to abolish guns, gangs would have no problem getting them.
But I highly agree with you Hev, that American gun control is by FAR the worse in the world and we do need to do something to fix it. But is there another way to attack the issue other than total extinction of guns in the U.S.?
__________________ Godbless, Tadpole.
“I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.”
-John McCain
"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution.
You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."
-Jamie Raskin |
| |
08-02-2005, 02:10 PM
|
#7 (permalink)
| | Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,733
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Level up: 56%, 142 Points needed | | In retrospect guns are no more dangerous than, idiots behind the wheel, drinking, smoking, and over eating. So in that case do we do something about these problems also?
__________________ Godbless, Tadpole.
“I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.”
-John McCain
"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution.
You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."
-Jamie Raskin |
| |
08-02-2005, 02:12 PM
|
#8 (permalink)
| | Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,733
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Level up: 56%, 142 Points needed | | Quote: |
it is not the gun companies fault that people go out and shoot people but when they sell guns like semi automatics or even automatics, which aren't used for hunting, shootings of any kind are their fault because of those types of guns.
| I disagree, I am stumpt why they would ever sell some one a semi-automatic but you cannot blame the stupidity on the gun company.
__________________ Godbless, Tadpole.
“I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.”
-John McCain
"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution.
You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."
-Jamie Raskin |
| |
08-02-2005, 03:47 PM
|
#9 (permalink)
| | Head of Security
Country: Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty
Gender:
Posts: 11,371
Thanks: 242
Thanked 276 Times in 163 Posts
Points: 49,111, Level: 100 | Level up: 2%, 0 Points needed | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy Quote: |
Originally Posted by prescott911 it is not the gun companies fault that people go out and shoot people but when they sell guns like semi automatics or even automatics, which aren't used for hunting, shootings of any kind are their fault because of those types of guns.
but it is still the gun owners decision to go out and shoot up the victims. so im kind of confused and in the middle on this one.
i think one of the moderators should continue this discussion in another forum. | I think it is ridiculous they sell guns with such destructive capability such as a semi automatic. But I put none of the blame on the gun company, they cannot be responsible for the idiots that handle their guns... Its a ridiculous argument. | Wait a minute. I think you mean fully automatic (which they don't sell), you can not possibly mean semi-automatic. Do you know what a semi automatic is? |
| |
08-02-2005, 03:49 PM
|
#10 (permalink)
| | Head of Security
Country: Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty
Gender:
Posts: 11,371
Thanks: 242
Thanked 276 Times in 163 Posts
Points: 49,111, Level: 100 | Level up: 2%, 0 Points needed | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by hevusa Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy Quote: |
Originally Posted by prescott911 it is not the gun companies fault that people go out and shoot people but when they sell guns like semi automatics or even automatics, which aren't used for hunting, shootings of any kind are their fault because of those types of guns.
but it is still the gun owners decision to go out and shoot up the victims. so im kind of confused and in the middle on this one.
i think one of the moderators should continue this discussion in another forum. | I think it is ridiculous they sell guns with such destructive capability such as a semi automatic. But I put none of the blame on the gun company, they cannot be responsible for the idiots that handle their guns... Its a ridiculous argument. |
Nations with better gun control than America have less violent crime. Makes sense to me. | That does not mean we have to go banning tools, that means we need to better educate the users of those tools. |
| | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | |