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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 12-09-2006, 04:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A Muslim convert who authorities say talked about waging violent jihad is in custody after federal agents say he tried to make an unusual trade: two stereo speakers for a 9 mm pistol and the grenades he would need to pull off his alleged plot.

And it's just another peaceful day, made even more peaceful by a Muslims determined to be a terrorist.

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Old 12-09-2006, 04:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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But, but, but you know don't you he is just ONE person and not typical of the entire religion.......

Hitler was one man. Saddam was one man. One man was flying each plane on 9/11.
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Violence in the name of religion is not limited Islam.

1. 2001: According to the Feminist Majority Foundation in Arlington, Virginia, Over 170 abortion clinics and doctors' offices in 14 states and the District of Columbia received threatening letters claiming to contain anthrax. The envelopes had return addresses from the U.S. Secret Service and U.S. Marshall Service with postmarks from Atlanta, GA; Knoxville, TN; Chattanooga, TN; or Columbus, OH. The envelopes were also marked, "TIME SENSITIVE: Urgent Security Notice Enclosed." When opened by clinic staff, all letters contained a white powder with a letter stating, "You have been exposed to anthrax. We are going to kill all of you. Army of God, Virginia DARE Chapter."

2. 2003: A nurse has been charged with firing a shotgun at an abortion clinic in Asheville before it opened on Thursday, according to police. Brenda Kaye Phillips, 44, a registered nurse, was charged a misdemeanor count of damage to property for shooting at the Femcare Women's Clinic. The same clinic was the target of bomb four years ago.

3. 2003: Klan leader David Wayne Hull was arrested at his Washington County, Pennsylvania, home on February 13 for allegedly planning to blow up an abortion clinic. Federal prosecutors charged Hull, a forty-year-old Imperial Wizard of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, a small Pennsylvania-based group, with receiving, manufacturing, possessing and transferring a destructive device in violation of the National Firearms Act. At a preliminary hearing in U.S. District Court in Pittsburgh on February 18, prosecutors accused Hull of trying to buy hand grenades from a witness cooperating with the FBI. According to an unsealed criminal complaint, Hull told the informant he was "going to blow up abortion clinics." Authorities say that Hull told the informant he made his car a "suicide bomb on wheels." In July 2002, Hull attended the "Aryan Nations World Congress," convened by the Pennsylvania faction of the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations. He is also a follower of Christian Identity, a racist and anti-Semitic sect whose adherents believe that white people are God's chosen people, descended from the lost tribes of ancient Israel, and that minorities are soulless "mud peoples."

4. 2004: A man who was accused of plotting to firebomb abortion clinics, churches, and gay bars was sentenced yesterday to five years in federal prison. Stephen John Jordi, 36, pleaded guilty in February to a single charge of attempted arson of an abortion clinic. Prosecutors had asked Judge James Cohn to sentence Jordi under a federal terrorism law and sought seven to 10 years. Cohn refused, saying federal sentencing rules require that plots have an international component to be considered terrorism. "This crime was strictly domestic and in no way transcended national boundaries," Cohn said. Jordi and a government informant bought gasoline cans, flares, starter fluid, and propane tanks the day he was arrested last November after casing several South Florida abortion clinics and talking about bombing one in Macon, Ga., according to the FBI. Prosecutor John Schlesinger said he "respectfully disagreed" with the judge's decision not to sentence Jordi as a terrorist.

5. 2005: A 24-year-old Shreveport woman and her 18-year-old boyfriend have been charged with attempting to bomb an abortion clinic. Authorities say Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe were arrested and booked into City Jail. Hughes was charged with manufacturing and possession of a delayed incendiary device. Dunahoe was charged as an accessory. Hope Medical Group for Women wasn't damaged when someone tossed a Molotov cocktail at it about 10:45 the night of December 12th.

6. 2005: A suspicious fire damaged an abortion clinic, and federal agents launched an investigation, authorities said Tuesday. The FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives joined local authorities in the investigation of the blaze late Monday at the Presidential Women's Clinic. No one was injured. Details on the extent of damage were not immediately available. It appeared that lighter fluid or some other accelerant was used to start the blaze, fire department spokesman Phil Kaplan said. A July 2004 fire damaged another Palm Beach County abortion clinic and a 2003 blaze damaged one in neighboring Broward County.

7. 2006: Evidence teams plan to put on protective gear and seal the room as they search for any clues left behind on a contraption that investigators are calling a "weapon of mass destruction." Technicians will be looking for fingerprints and any other evidence that may have been left on the device, which was pumping a mix of water and a caustic chemical into a sex shop when neighbors found it Sunday morning, detectives said. The evidence crew will be breathing the air inside the room, but won't have any unprotected contact with the plastic jugs, duct tape, and hoses that make up the device. In Waldo, people have held prayer vigils and protests aimed at an adult bookstore along US 301, trying to keep the "Cafe Risque" from opening its doors on time.

8. 2006: A man who told police he made a pipe bomb to attack an abortion clinic was arrested Thursday, shortly before the device went off in a friend's home while authorities tried to disable it, according to court documents. ... Weiler faces four federal counts including making a destructive device and possessing an illegal handgun. He was being held Thursday. Phone messages left at Weiler's home were not returned. A car in the driveway had a frame around the front license plate that read "Choose Life" and "God is pro-Life."

You may not like the site I got this from, and you may not agree with abortion, but these crimes are being committed by Christians against Americans, in the name of God. I think it just goes to show that hateful fundamentalism comes in many guises.

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Old 12-09-2006, 06:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think that's really funny.....

Talking about violence at abortion clinics. There is a hell of a lot more murdering of human beings going on inside those places than outside by deranged religious idiots.

In my way of thinking, the doctors who perform the murders have more in common with muslim terrorists than the Christians who blow up abortion clinics full of other muderers.

Is there moral equivalency between a deranged muslim wanting to blow up innocent shoppers and a deranged Christian wanting to blow up murdering doctors? Not in my mind.

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You may not like the site I got this from, and you may not agree with abortion, but these crimes are being committed by Christians against Americans, in the name of God. I think it just goes to show that hateful fundamentalism comes in many guises.
Yeah, like I said alias.

Whether or not you like it, abortion is legal in this country and the "murdering doctors", some of who may be saving the lives of the mothers at times, are Americans.
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Old 12-09-2006, 09:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah, like I said alias.

Whether or not you like it, abortion is legal in this country and the "murdering doctors", some of who may be saving the lives of the mothers at times, are Americans.
I don't doubt there are some abortions that are to save the mother's life. What percentage of all abortions do you think that would amount to? 0.5%? Give me some stats for your moral equivalency to make it equivocal. I don't think you can.
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I don't doubt there are some abortions that are to save the mother's life. What percentage of all abortions do you think that would amount to? 0.5%? Give me some stats for your moral equivalency to make it equivocal. I don't think you can.
Capital punishment is legal in this country also. That doesn't stop the granola heads from standing outside of prisons holding a vigil for some scumbag who murdered an innocent human being now does it.

I will stand with those who chose to protect innocent life from the legal slaughter by people who have reprobate minds and seared consciences. Have a good night.
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Besides, thats 8 cases over the span of 5 years. I can name 8 cases of Muslim extremists from yesterday.
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Besides, thats 8 cases over the span of 5 years. I can name 8 cases of Muslim extremists from yesterday.
Good point.

In additioin, "planning to disrupt" the bloody business of an abortion clinic is a far cry from driving an explosives-laden car into a busy market and detonating it, in order to murder as many innocent people as possible.

Apples & Oranges.
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And it's just another peaceful day, made even more peaceful by a Muslims determined to be a terrorist.

Idiots.
Perhaps you missed this part of the article:
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A spiritual leader of Rockford-area Muslims commended authorities for intercepting the alleged plot and reiterated "the Muslim community's condemnation of terrorism in the name of Islam," said Shpendim Nadzaku, imam of the Muslim Association of Greater Rockford.

Asked if he had ever met Shareef, Nadzaku said: "No one in the community has any clue as to who this person is - he's completely anonymous."
Some complain that there isn't enough reaction to terrorism by moderate Muslims, yet fail to point it out when it is there. Perhaps they need to shout and get red in the face?
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