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| No surprise that Bush doesn't care what Congress thinks - he doesn't care what the citizens think either. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| He's not afraid to be a prick because the Democratic leadership already announced that they have no intentions of even considering impeachment, which is the ultimate check on the executive. Maybe Nanci Pelosi should rethink her statement that "impeachment is a waste of time", because saving lives certainly isn't a "waste of time." "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| An arrogant prick, this of a President who has vetoed on bill from Congress. Hmmm let's see, Clinton vetoed 37 times that amount. I guess that makes good old bill a really,really,really,really,really,really,really,r eally,really,really,really,really,really,really,re ally,really,really,really,really,really,really,rea lly,really,really,really,really,really,really,real ly,really,really,really,really,really,really,reall y,really, arrogant prick. dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | |||||||||||||||||||||
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On the other hand, Republicans don't tend to question authority, especially during the Bush administration. Bush has had a unified government all throughout his entire presidency up until this point. He hasn't had to veto anything because the Republican leadership in Congress were rubber-stampers for the executive at unprecedented levels. Really the only Republican I know of that actually votes ideologically instead of on the Party line is Congressman Ron Paul (many times he's the only dissenting voice in the Republican Party), and he's basically libertarian. So, if this Democratic leadership can (key word can) produce something like an Iraq War timetable or universal health care, Bush will use his veto powers. Not to mention Clinton at least generally operated on the consensus of the American people. I can understand sometimes doing something that may be unpopular, but President Bush has been very arrogant on things that are really stupid and the vast majority of Americans are against (such as selling our ports to Dubai, or now his Iraq War plans). "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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First - it ain't gonna happen. Secondly - it's just a time-wasting censure - remember, that impeachment is NOT removal from office. It's just a public hand-slapping. Bush's impeachment wouldn't save one life. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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And you most likely do have a point on it not happening. Likely the Democrats would get the vote on impeachment in the House but he would probably get acquitted by the Senate, like Clinton. But I think that the case of convicting Bush is very high; probably higher than any other prior President including Nixon. I think if irrefutable evidence is presented, then if the Senate doesn't convict him then he will probably get indicted by a federal grand jury. Just because he may have rubber-stampers in Congress doesn't mean he can do whatever he wants and be above the law. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 Last edited by Katczinsky; 03-20-2007 at 06:06 PM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution. Bush challenges hundreds of laws - The Boston Globe ![]() ImpeachBush / VoteToImpeach: Live the Light, Give the Light, Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day! I am not a human being having a spiritual experience, I am a spiritual being having a human experience. The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party: Stop the madness before us it stops! Σταματήστε την τρέλα προτού να μας σταματήσεϊ Greek | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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