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04-15-2007, 02:06 PM
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Level up: 38%, 121 Points needed | | Is this a Fascist controlled forum? I find educating people in these type forums about Fascism to be very difficult. Everytime I try and post anything meaningful about Fascism the post is not allowed. Of course this is very typical. I have been in dozens of forums just like this. Needless to say I have been banned from AOL and Yahoo. The American people had better start taking Fascism seriously. |
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04-15-2007, 02:11 PM
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Level up: 29%, 99 Points needed | | PublicEye.org - Website of Political Research Associates - What is Fascism? Quote:
Fascism is a form of extreme right-wing ideology that celebrates the nation or the race as an organic community transcending all other loyalties. It emphasizes a myth of national or racial rebirth after a period of decline or destruction. To this end, fascism calls for a "spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as individualism and materialism, and seeks to purge "alien" forces and groups that threaten the organic community. Fascism tends to celebrate masculinity, youth, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries. Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the privileged nation or race.
Fascism's approach to politics is both populist--in that it seeks to activate "the people" as a whole against perceived oppressors or enemies--and elitist--in that it treats the people's will as embodied in a select group, or often one supreme leader, from whom authority proceeds downward. Fascism seeks to organize a cadre-led mass movement in a drive to seize state power. It seeks to forcibly subordinate all spheres of society to its ideological vision of organic community, usually through a totalitarian state. Both as a movement and a regime, fascism uses mass organizations as a system of integration and control, and uses organized violence to suppress opposition, although the scale of violence varies widely.
Fascism is hostile to Marxism, liberalism, and conservatism, yet it borrows concepts and practices from all three. Fascism rejects the principles of class struggle and workers' internationalism as threats to national or racial unity, yet it often exploits real grievances against capitalists and landowners through ethnic scapegoating or radical-sounding conspiracy theories. Fascism rejects the liberal doctrines of individual autonomy and rights, political pluralism, and representative government, yet it advocates broad popular participation in politics and may use parliamentary channels in its drive to power. Its vision of a "new order" clashes with the conservative attachment to tradition-based institutions and hierarchies, yet fascism often romanticizes the past as inspiration for national rebirth.
| Here, maybe now we can discuss it. |
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04-15-2007, 02:13 PM
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Level up: 49%, 155 Points needed | | I support Fascism.
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04-15-2007, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by John I support Fascism. | Then you can't be a communist, silly John dear.  |
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04-15-2007, 02:18 PM
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Level up: 49%, 155 Points needed | | But I AM Communist, i said i just SUPPORT Fascism, (just in case this communism thing doesn't work out.) Government systems fascinate me, Communism is just best.
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04-15-2007, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sally Numor | Honey, don't tell me about Fascism, I know Fascism. It has nothing to do with what the Plebes believe, it has everything to do with what the leaders of the movement believe. You are assumming that the leaders of Fascism have the goodwill of their followers at heart. I assure you they do not. They spread their beliefs for their own control. It is a myth, magic, lies. This is my point. |
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04-15-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sally Numor | As I have said. I tried to respond to your diatribe but was cancelled by the Fascists. I wish I could disscuss it wit you. |
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04-15-2007, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by billybobama You are assumming that the leaders of Fascism have the goodwill of their followers at heart. | Would you mind quoting what part of her post says this?
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04-15-2007, 06:31 PM
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Fascism is a form of extreme right-wing ideology that celebrates the nation or the race as an organic community transcending all other loyalties. It emphasizes a myth of national or racial rebirth after a period of decline or destruction. To this end, fascism calls for a "spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as individualism and materialism, and seeks to purge "alien" forces and groups that threaten the organic community. Fascism tends to celebrate masculinity, youth, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries. Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the privileged nation or race.
Fascism's approach to politics is both populist--in that it seeks to activate "the people" as a whole against perceived oppressors or enemies--and elitist--in that it treats the people's will as embodied in a select group, or often one supreme leader, from whom authority proceeds downward. Fascism seeks to organize a cadre-led mass movement in a drive to seize state power. It seeks to forcibly subordinate all spheres of society to its ideological vision of organic community, usually through a totalitarian state. Both as a movement and a regime, fascism uses mass organizations as a system of integration and control, and uses organized violence to suppress opposition, although the scale of violence varies widely.
Fascism is hostile to Marxism, liberalism, and conservatism, yet it borrows concepts and practices from all three. Fascism rejects the principles of class struggle and workers' internationalism as threats to national or racial unity, yet it often exploits real grievances against capitalists and landowners through ethnic scapegoating or radical-sounding conspiracy theories. Fascism rejects the liberal doctrines of individual autonomy and rights, political pluralism, and representative government, yet it advocates broad popular participation in politics and may use parliamentary channels in its drive to power. Its vision of a "new order" clashes with the conservative attachment to tradition-based institutions and hierarchies, yet fascism often romanticizes the past as inspiration for national rebirth.
| I've seen something that might simplify this.
You have two cows, the government takes both cows and shoots you.
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04-15-2007, 06:56 PM
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Level up: 34%, 129 Points needed | | Well to see if fascism or communism is better why don't you just start your own country? Jennifer Government: NationStates
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