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tyreay

What scared me the most was the comments by some of the extremist religious folks after the main post. Wow!

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Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville

teethandclaws

Ken Ham is clueless regarding atheistic values.
Instead of living life in a way that is dictated by God in order to obtain eternal paradise, I live this life knowing it is the only one I will ever have. I know that every life of every person, every creature, and every living thing on this planet, is experienced only once.
To me, to take that away from someone else, and in most cases, something else, is an offense against life itself.
When we do that, we are "playing God," choosing who or what gets to live or die, and that is not something I would ever want on my conscience.
On the other hand, there are natural laws, one of them being that we must kill other organisms to survive, however, wasting life is inexcusable.

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Our Task must be to free ourselves... by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures, the whole of nature, and its beauty.
Albert Einstein

Hans Küng: "There will be peace on earth when there is peace among the world religions."

CrazyFlamingos

That was very touching.

I am always dumbfounded at the idiocy of the "athiests have no morals" crowd.

Many of the kindest, most selfless, honest and moral people that I have ever known were athiest or agnostic.

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"I will hold up America to the lightning scorn of moral indignation. In doing this I shall feel myself discharging the duty of a true patriot; for he is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins." -- Frederick Douglass

Brutalis08

An interesting fact is that between the teachings of creationism and evolutionism(Darwinism) we've seen more "Holy" war brought by the "nice and kind religous folk" than wars between evolutionists.

Antithesis

That was an amazing response. I've been careful not to say anything overtly religious or pray in desperation, because that's only an emotional response to me, something obsolete in it's practice, at least in my own life. I can't say the same for others. However, I still feel a need to offer comfort and sympathy for those affected, but compassion and faith are two entirely different concepts. Love for others is human nature, and many atheists acknowledge that. It's not a supreme law of the universe, but it's important enough to guide our lives with.

If anything, this kind of event strengthens my beliefs for the simple reason that if a loving god could comfort survivors, he could have gone one better and stopped the tragedy.

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Katczinsky

"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
-Steven Weinberg

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