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Thoughts about porn and masturbation 
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#1
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jaaaman
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05-14-2007, 03:39 PM
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 Pornography is harmful to all involved... Pornography directly leads to the objectification and dehumanization of women. Pornography presents women as objects, sexualized means to gratification. Pornography is not about "sexuality", it has nothing to do with "sex" at all. Pornography is blatant and utter exploitation, plain and simple. Men who view pornography do not limit the objectification to the woman on the screen/magazine, as though that wasn't bad enough. They take the image and apply it to all women: your sister, mother, wife, girlfriend, etc. Soon, the object becomes a woman at the office, a co-worker, friend, or neighbor. The object becomes you or someone you love. Pornography's influence is not limited to where it is presented. Those who use it are changed by it. It becomes acceptable in their minds for them to treat all women in the way they see the women in the pornography. It becomes "okay" for them to view women as sexual objects. When men treat women as sexual objects, they do not relate to them on a human to human level. They begin to think it is all right for them to say things to them they would never say to a fellow human being. The respect, the camaraderie is lost. It is not "okay" for men to view women as sexual objects. Pornography is not "okay". It has proliferated our media, our magazines, our internet, our television. And what about our children? They are seeing this too. Do we really want our children growing up in a world like this? How do you think the children would feel to know how men are viewing their mothers? Their teachers? Their friends? Is this really how we want our world, people?  |
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Last edited by jaaaman; 05-14-2007 at 03:41 PM.
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#3
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tadpole256 
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05-15-2007, 12:00 PM
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| There is nothing wrong with porn, it's fantasy. And masturbation is natural and healthy. |
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#4
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hkbajwa
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05-15-2007, 12:49 PM
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| Well i have to agree that the proliferation of pornography has caused some very serious sexual misconceptions and honestly ruins the minds of men ( BY FAR the biggest consumers of porn). Tad.. the "fantasy" in pornography is not of love or happiness. It is more often than not a fantasy of subjugation of the woman. These starlets are more often than not referred to as hoes, bitches, sluts, cum-catchers or what not. They are shown to have uncontrollable libidos. They are shown to take pleasure in acts that actually have no physical pleasure involved for the woman ( it's another thing when ur girl does it to make u happy.. but these pornstars are shown to do it for their OWN pleasure.. not for the pleasure of pleasing their man). The advent of internet porn has confused the hell out of a whole generation.. A study was conducted on pornography and its effects on the youth ( denmark has EXTREMELY liberal censorship laws ) It was found that girls as young as 13 were engaging in anal sex, even though they barely had any idea what sex is. It was found that kids were hopping straight into odd sex positions ( whose purpose is to give a better camera angle - not better sex). Don't get me wrong.. i don't see promiscuity as a problem. I DO however find the complete and utter confusion about gender roles in this most intimate of situations to be VERY problematic. Sex is a deeply intimate and (dare i say it) special act between two consenting people. no pornography ever shows that. Lots of kids use what they see in porn as the blue print for how they will act in bed. And that does them no good at all. |
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#5
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Antithesis
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05-17-2007, 08:01 AM
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| What he said.  The problem isn't that sex is portrayed, but rather that it's portrayed in such a way that it completely demeans and degrades all people, not just women. Think about it, there's also a great deal of stereotyping with males as well as people "in control." I have heard of "feminist pornography" which seems like a contradiction, but in a way it makes sense if both people are shown as equals and there's no unnecessarily exaggerated gender roles. |
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#6
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tadpole256
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05-17-2007, 09:00 AM
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2) Porn isn't for kids... Period. So that makes it all a moot point. | |
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#7
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Fluffmeister
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05-17-2007, 09:20 AM
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| If you don't masturbate, then you'll just end up with sticky sheets a few days later when you have a wet dream instead. But it's an interesting suggestion, nevertheless. Why stop at wanking, though? Surely we could include other bodily functions. For example, I currently have a crap every single day, which I'm sure would upset Jesus enormously and is clearly a vice. I saw a TV programme once about women with chronic severe constipation, where some only took a dump once a month, and had to go to hospital to have it all flushed out - I'm sure that would be far more morally acceptable. Incidentally, I couldn't find any reference to "apples" anywhere in Genesis, either in the English versions I checked or the Hebrew. Would someone who is more God-fearing than me care to point out the verse for me? |
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#8
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tadpole256
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05-17-2007, 09:24 AM
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| I'll bet Jesus didn't crap. |
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#9
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hkbajwa
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05-18-2007, 07:37 AM
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HOWEVER, the point i am trying to make is that sex without attachment, while being instantly gratifying, IS NOT healthy for people. By attachment i do not mean romantic love, but the love that one human has for another human. I am not saying that one should only fuck after marriage. What i DO think is that sex should be inexorably attached with respect for the person that you are engaging in it with. It is important to remember the humanity of the person you are fucking. Pornography removes any hint of humanity. I mean you don't really think of Tera Patrick as a "person" now do you? She, just like any other pornstar is a piece of meat. I don't think it's healthy for anybody to assume that they can have good sex with a piece of meat. Which is a misconception that pornography reinforces. Anyhow the problem is that sex, through pornoagraphy, gets reduced to a purely animalistic urge without regard for our higher spiritual faculties. Secondly, i know porn isn't for kids, but almost all guys i know had access to pornography from an age of 13 -14.. and that is here in PAKISTAN. In Denmark it's even easier. The point is that pornography may be meant for adults, but the the most prolific viewers of porn are adolescent boys. These teenagers grow with a skewed perception of sex which influences their opinion of women for the rest of their lives. Personally i think young people would get less damaged if they started having sex, instead of taking the first step of jerking off to a porn flick. At least this way they will learn to deal with REALITY, as opposed to trying to impose the UNREALITY of porno sex onto their own sex-lives. | |
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