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Old 06-19-2007, 07:16 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Yes, you have a point, Ruffian. I would like to ask you though, do you also believe that no matter how much we know or do not know, and no matter our belief in God or disbelief in god, do we all in some way to reach our conclusions take a bit of a leap or even just a hop of faith?

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I don't think it really takes faith to believe there is no god, just open eyes, and a strong sense of reality...
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:35 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I don't think it really takes faith to believe there is no god, just open eyes, and a strong sense of reality...
I do understand your viewpoint, Tad. To me though we are all more accurately agnostics. Faith that looks for what cannot be seen or reason that sees only that which one can look at. Sort of to me levels the playing field of thinking and believing and makes us all vulnerable to have to admit that absolute certainty is an illusion that many overcome with dogmaticism.

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Yes, you have a point, Ruffian. I would like to ask you though, do you also believe that no matter how much we know or do not know, and no matter our belief in God or disbelief in god, do we all in some way to reach our conclusions take a bit of a leap or even just a hop of faith?

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Do we ALL?

Of course not. Just most of us. The atheist position isn't based on faith. It's based on lack of evidence. We atheists simply don't accept the god claims of the believers. And the believers have no evidence to support their beliefs, which is precisely why they're left with only faith. They can convince themselves, but that's as far as it goes.
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