Defending the Truth
Articles | Interviews | Politicians | Groups | Arcade | Experience | Donate
  Defending the Truth > General Off-topic > Books
American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America

Books Open discussion of books that are related to politics. Mention any interesting books you have read in this forum.

Reply
Page 6 of 6 < 12345 6
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-26-2007, 01:19 PM   #51 (permalink)
Community Leader
 
teethandclaws's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New England Shoreline
Gender: Female
Posts: 865
Country:
Points: 4,950, Level: 44
Points: 4,950, Level: 44 Points: 4,950, Level: 44 Points: 4,950, Level: 44
Level up: 50%, 200 Points needed
Level up: 50% Level up: 50% Level up: 50%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
teethandclaws is offline 		Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hkbajwa View Post
Well my point was that you cannot make the settlers out to be religious progressives that espoused the "american" values of equality, tolerance and democracy.

The Puritans were as dogmatic and theocratic as the nation they fled from.

The relation to this topic lies int he fact that it is likely that the puritanical ethic may be deeply entrenched in american society. And today's neo-con, evangelical, theological movement is an indication of the pervasive influence of that line of thought.

Is it not possible that the puritans also wished to establish a theocracy in the US, but was unable to do so due to the exceptionally diverse mix of cultures that constituted the new America. Of course this is pure speculation, but something that may be worth considering.

How close to todays ideals of american society were the settlers really?
Isn't it kind of funny that here in New England, where the Puritans were a major influence, is now a very liberal area...? I can't say the neo-conservatives are totally in-line with the Puritans ideals as they were very community oriented. Their purpose, as stated by John Winthrop aboard the Arbella, the following sermon.

A Modell of Christian Charity

Though strongly religious, I do not see that Christians of the neo-conservative political view are quite like the Puritans.
Our Task must be to free ourselves... by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures, the whole of nature, and its beauty.
Albert Einstein

Hans Küng: "There will be peace on earth when there is peace among the world religions."
Sponsored Links
Old 02-26-2007, 02:00 PM   #52 (permalink)
Banned
 
Jefferson's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Omaha Beach
Posts: 7,298
Points: 21,921, Level: 92
Points: 21,921, Level: 92 Points: 21,921, Level: 92 Points: 21,921, Level: 92
Level up: 58%, 429 Points needed
Level up: 58% Level up: 58% Level up: 58%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Jefferson is offline 		Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by teethandclaws View Post
Though strongly religious, I do not see that Christians of the neo-conservative political view are quite like the Puritans.
I could agree more.

We're talking about two separate entities here.
Old 03-02-2007, 08:08 PM   #53 (permalink)
Community Leader
 
teethandclaws's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New England Shoreline
Gender: Female
Posts: 865
Country:
Points: 4,950, Level: 44
Points: 4,950, Level: 44 Points: 4,950, Level: 44 Points: 4,950, Level: 44
Level up: 50%, 200 Points needed
Level up: 50% Level up: 50% Level up: 50%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
teethandclaws is offline 		Reply With Quote
 
Well, I got the book from the library the other day. I'm reading it still. Some of the ideas presented are pretty scary, but I think that's the purpose of the book, to be a big wake up call not only to the left, but also the moderates.

It reminds me of the poem that goes something like "they came for ... but I didn't speak up because I wasn't a ..."

Variations of this poem can be found at:

First they came... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia...
Our Task must be to free ourselves... by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures, the whole of nature, and its beauty.
Albert Einstein

Hans Küng: "There will be peace on earth when there is peace among the world religions."
Reply
Page 6 of 6 < 12345 6

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:23 AM.

Defending the Truth - FAQ - Rules - Contact Us - Donate - Archive - Top

 Top Political Sites
Poltical Topsites 

Recommended Sites