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Old 11-14-2005, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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John McCain: Wrong to Attack Bush
John McCain: Wrong to Attack Bush
Sunday, Nov. 13, 2005 9:18 p.m. EST

Sen. John McCain said Sunday that Iraq war critics who insist on claiming that President Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction are themselves liars.

"I think it's a very legitimate aspect of American life to criticize and to disagree and to debate," McCain told CBS's "Face the Nation." "But I want to say I think it's a lie to say that the president lied to the American people."

The Arizona Republican recalled his role on the Robb-Silverman Commission, which investigated allegations that WMD intelligence had been manipulated.

"I saw many, many analysts that came before that committee," McCain said. "I asked every one of them: 'Were you ever pressured politically or any other way to change your analysis of the situation as you saw?'

"Every one of them said no," he recalled.

McCain noted that "every intelligence agency in the world, including the Russian, including the French, including the Israeli[s], all had reached the same conclusion, and that was that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction."

"The more facts that come out, the better off we are," he added. "But I would not accept the premise the president lied."
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: John McCain: Wrong to Attack Bush
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From Libby's indictments:

On or about January 28, 2003, President George W. Bush delivered his State of the Uniom address which included sixteen words asserting that The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.
If anyone should be blamed it'd be the British government.
Old 11-15-2005, 12:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Of course they are wrong to assume that, it is no more than leftist propaganda. Every commission we had investigate this incident said that George Bush did not lie about WMD. I am blaming him for continuing the lie but not for ignitiating it.
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Of course they are wrong to assume that, it is no more than leftist propaganda. Every commission we had investigate this incident said that George Bush did not lie about WMD. I am blaming him for continuing the lie but not for ignitiating it.
According to CIA officials with 20+ years experience Bush knew they were lies from the get go. This is Bush's false war and no matter how much Bush tries to re-write or run from history that is how he will be remembered.
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I agree. It is too difficult to believe that there was no conflict of interest with Bush and the invasion of Iraq. Whether Bush intentionally lied is a question we will never know the answer to. However, even faulty intelligence should be dealt with properly, not simply by being stubborn and "holding your ground."
Old 01-07-2006, 05:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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According to CIA officials with 20+ years experience Bush knew they were lies from the get go. This is Bush's false war and no matter how much Bush tries to re-write or run from history that is how he will be remembered.
CIA officials with 20+ years experience including George H.W Bush his "daddy" ;-D. I have a lot of respect for McCain from the get to, but thing is now he is just brown nosing so that if he does decide to run after 2006 elections are over next year a PAC or his own party won't use any of his words against him. I am quite a shamed though I mean this is a neoconservative adminstration that ousted the fact that he adopted a Banglideshi child with his wife Cindy when he was running in 2000. I think if his stance on foreign policy, education, etc is pretty good he is a sure thing. What's even more important though is what's going on in Congress.
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Old 01-07-2006, 06:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If John McCain ran for president on an independent ticket, I would vote for him, but never as a reptilican! I like the man's ideals and even if he is brown noseing in the above instance, he is one of the few republicans to stand up to his own party when they are wrong.
Concerning Bush knowing the truth before we went in there, check out my last post in War on Terror. Bush knew more than just the facts about WMD in Iraq.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If John McCain ran for president on an independent ticket, I would vote for him, but never as a reptilican! I like the man's ideals and even if he is brown noseing in the above instance, he is one of the few republicans to stand up to his own party when they are wrong.
Concerning Bush knowing the truth before we went in there, check out my last post in War on Terror. Bush knew more than just the facts about WMD in Iraq.
I'm voting for McCain because he is one of the only real republicans left in office and a very respectable man at that. Brownosing? BS... McCain is probably the most honest politician we have to date.

Here is my favorite John McCain quote and exactly how I feel:

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“I am a Republican. I'm loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.”
McCain 08!
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have a feeling that I could vote for McCain. I hope he finds a ticket someday.
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Old 01-08-2006, 08:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I think if he truly runs in 2008, their is a good chance he will become our next President. I am very surprised at the amount of support he is getting from most of the members on this site. My American Politics professor was surprised to hear this when told him that most of the members on my forums (liberal + conservative) like McCain.
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