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| Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.) Gender: ![]() Posts: 7,887 Country: ![]()
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Why not divide the electoral votes proportionally? We can make the system more fair and unlock it to more parties than just two. There is no way our diverse country can be represented justly with only two parties. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| mmmm i see that some people here continue to view Bush as an honest and brave president working for the safety of the world and the nation. I could bring to you tons of facts that will prove you wrong and expose your naivete, but i ill leave it to time and history to bring those facts out for themselves. instead been fed lies by right wing media i think you guys should be more objective on the issue rather than ignoring the truth that has become so obvious over the years. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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American public... hook, line and sinker. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| The voting system should be a count of all people's vote and the person with the most people voting for him, should win. This is common sense and mentioning the suburbs and the cities has nothing to do with it. Either the system is change so that who ever gets the most votes win, or we continue to mis-count, mis-represent, and mis-appoint, with the electoral vote system. Tell me how you think that not putting who wins the most votes in office is un fair. If the system allows someone to win that doesn't have the most votes then the electoral votes should be re-distributed. No matter if we are talking about Bush or Clinton, really, it makes no difference, in either case, who ever had the most votes should have been our president. Fair is fair. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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The republican party was reborn because of Reagan. He won in a landslide in his second election for a reason...the tax cuts were working! An evil motherfucker as well? Well according to the lefts view of Reagan, you are right! The left hated Reagan so much because he was actually standing up against the Soviets. What are all these peace protests going to solve?? The Soviet's simply could not keep up with Reagan's increase in military power including the "Star Wars" program. Sure it's a dream in our mind, but all of this is what led to the fall of the Soviet Union. They tried to compete with the US and they simply did not have the funds to do so... Now if we had a liberal in office who tends to fund social programs instead of the military defense during that time...nuclear holocaust? Reagan's successful policies led to more jobs, less unemployment, LOWER MORTGAGE RATES, small business growth, and a safer America. Basically fixed all of the lefts problems created in the 70's. Sure he did spend a lot towards military (which pissed off the liberals); I am just glad he stood up to the Soviets! (which pissed off the liberals) Forever will the liberals deny Reagan's accomplishments in ending the Cold War, because their peace rallies did not work. I wouldn't mind if you called our current President all these different terms, but I wouldn't go as far as Reagan. | ||
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As far as my mention the differences between urban, suburban and rural areas, this was exactly the reason why the Founders sought a method of electing a President who would represent all the states. Once again, the needs of the different states vary. Urban areas have many more industrial jobs which in turn have more unionized workers, whereas, rural areas have less industrial jobs and thus less unionized workers. The needs of the two are different, thus the electoral college protects the different needs. Furthermore, urban areas are more populated than the suburban and rural areas, once again this causes different problems or needs to arise. Despite your contention, the votes are not miscounted, misrepresented, nor misappointed. The votes reflect the equality of the 50 member states of this Republic, not granting more weight to one state over another, all states are equal. Once again, the election of a President should not be a popularity contest. The President should be the person that best represents the majority of the member states. In the 2000 election, George W Bush was that person. He carried more states, meaning that his platform was acceptable to the majority of the people in more states than was Al Gore's platform. Quit thinking in terms of our country being a democracy, we are not, we are a constitutional republic. Take time to read the consitution before you make outrageous charges against the system. For a document that was written more than 200 years ago, it has done an extremely remarkable job of protecting our country and the individuals rights. Ignorance is not bliss, ignorance leads only to death. dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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