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Old 07-14-2007, 08:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The democrats are impotent, ineffective windbags for the most part. They can't get anything done because they have NO party unity, meanwhile the main problem with the republican party is how in recent years they all walk in lock-step...
Tadpole - The Democrats do not have enough votes to kill the Fascist Republican Bush Administration. I cannot believe you do not understand this.
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If you knew anything about how the U.S. Government works you would know the Democrats do not have the votes to remove the Bush Administration. Democrats are much smarter than Republicans. They know better than to waste millions of U.S. Taxpayers dollars for a show with zero results like the Dumbs Ass Republicans did with Clinton. It will take Republicans to kill this Fascist Republican Bush administration.
This is correct. A mere majority doesn't connote complete control.

But there are also a lot of other things they could do that is within their power; such as refuse to pass a war spending bill that does not contain withdraw conditions. If the Republicans do not refrain from blocking all of the war spending legislation...then the war will not be funded. Either way the war would be ended.

I believe this is the lack of spine and unity within the Democratic Party that tadpole was suggesting.
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Tadpole - The Democrats do not have enough votes to kill the Fascist Republican Bush Administration. I cannot believe you do not understand this.
I do understand this. I just do not believe that they would do much if they did have the majority. I think both parties are shitty. I hate that we are limited to a two party system.
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:22 PM   #14 (permalink)
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This is correct. A mere majority doesn't connote complete control.

But there are also a lot of other things they could do that is within their power; such as refuse to pass a war spending bill that does not contain withdraw conditions. If the Republicans do not refrain from blocking all of the war spending legislation...then the war will not be funded. Either way the war would be ended.

I believe this is the lack of spine and unity within the Democratic Party that tadpole was suggesting.
You are correct. there are lots of things the Dems could be doing but they are squandering their opportunity.
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Old 07-15-2007, 09:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You are correct. there are lots of things the Dems could be doing but they are squandering their opportunity.
Please, give us some clues if you have ideas.
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I do understand this. I just do not believe that they would do much if they did have the majority. I think both parties are shitty. I hate that we are limited to a two party system.
Please do not think, just try and use some reality and facts.
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Old 07-15-2007, 09:44 AM   #18 (permalink)
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This is correct. A mere majority doesn't connote complete control.

But there are also a lot of other things they could do that is within their power; such as refuse to pass a war spending bill that does not contain withdraw conditions. If the Republicans do not refrain from blocking all of the war spending legislation...then the war will not be funded. Either way the war would be ended.

I believe this is the lack of spine and unity within the Democratic Party that tadpole was suggesting.
Katman - There was a big strategy fight when the Democrats won the House. 1) Democrats could fight Bush at every turn on Iraq, possibly loosing public support because Republicans would frame this as not supporting the troops. 2) Democrats could pursue their own agenda and give George Bush enough rope to possibly destroy the whole Fascist Republican Party. For better or worse the Democrats chose the second strategy.
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Katman - There was a big strategy fight when the Democrats won the House. 1) Democrats could fight Bush at every turn on Iraq, possibly loosing public support because Republicans would frame this as not supporting the troops. 2) Democrats could pursue their own agenda and give George Bush enough rope to possibly destroy the whole Fascist Republican Party. For better or worse the Democrats chose the second strategy.
The point being expressed here is that the Democrats are spineless for choosing the latter, thereby putting Party politics before country and the opportunity to end an illegal war and end the killing of both American and Iraqi lives.

And they're indecisive because their strategy (2) isn't working; even though, generally, a majority of people are happy about Democrats being in control of Congress again, approval ratings for the Presidency are still higher than Congress. Because Congress is seen as an indecisive body full of plutocrats that are influenced from big money...and the Democrats haven't done anything to change that as promised but instead continue to take place in it. Likewise, I believe some Republican presidential candidates are ahead of Democratic candidates in the polls.

If the complaint about Congress is that they don't get anything done, and that they'd rather put big money and Party politics ahead of that ideal, then the Democrats would have gotten much favorable outcomes by pursuing strategy 1.
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I think both parties are shitty. I hate that we are limited to a two party system.
Yup, that must really suck. In the UK, we have *three* shitty parties to choose from
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