New Laws Create New Criminals... - Page 2

RidinHighSpeeds · 12-30-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by teethandclaws

I think it's kind of funny that people stigmatize and reward prostitutes (and others in the sex industry for that matter) in our society. We make it illegal for them to ply their trade, but at the same time they are making big money. It's really hippocritical.
Since it is something that is going to go on anyway, it should just be legalized. At least that way, it can be regulated, which will offer protections for all those involved.
From what I understand, where it is legal, the prostitutes are required to be in good health, condom use is required, and they are less likely to suffer from violent attacks and theft by clients or pimps. The clients are less likely to get took for their money too.
I know that prostitution offends the moral values of some, but the issue here is whether or not justice is being served by these laws. Given all the evidence, I'd say not. Justice would be providing a structure for an institution as old as civilization itself.

How much of a tax should be whacked onto their services

onthefence · 12-30-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RidinHighSpeeds

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Originally Posted by teethandclaws

I think it's kind of funny that people stigmatize and reward prostitutes (and others in the sex industry for that matter) in our society. We make it illegal for them to ply their trade, but at the same time they are making big money. It's really hippocritical.
Since it is something that is going to go on anyway, it should just be legalized. At least that way, it can be regulated, which will offer protections for all those involved.
From what I understand, where it is legal, the prostitutes are required to be in good health, condom use is required, and they are less likely to suffer from violent attacks and theft by clients or pimps. The clients are less likely to get took for their money too.
I know that prostitution offends the moral values of some, but the issue here is whether or not justice is being served by these laws. Given all the evidence, I'd say not. Justice would be providing a structure for an institution as old as civilization itself.

How much of a tax should be whacked onto their services

I am sure uncle sam won't be looking for as much her pimp would be looking for. hehe uncle sam would be the pimp.

tadpole256 · 12-30-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebraskaboy

Prostitution?

Wow, isn't America a grand country.

Isn't it legal in Nevada? or just Vegas anyway.....

I tis legal in the whole state.

sgtdmski · 01-01-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

So this is what happens to "Justice" under a capitalist system. Another sad side-effect.

There you go blaming capitalism for government wanting more money. It is not the fault of capitalism but rather the socialistic nature of goverment. Quit making capitalism the villian. A true capitalist would want drugs and prostitution legal becaue there would be markets for a capitalist to make money. It is not the economic system fault, but rather the governments.

dmk

hevusa · 01-01-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

So this is what happens to "Justice" under a capitalist system. Another sad side-effect.

There you go blaming capitalism for government wanting more money. It is not the fault of capitalism but rather the socialistic nature of goverment. Quit making capitalism the villian. A true capitalist would want drugs and prostitution legal becaue there would be markets for a capitalist to make money. It is not the economic system fault, but rather the governments.

dmk

They are making far more money with the current laws that strip personal freedom. Keeps the average joe down as well because street prices are driven upwards. Keep that military fueled by building more jails.

tadpole256 · 01-03-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

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Originally Posted by sgtdmski

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Originally Posted by hevusa

So this is what happens to "Justice" under a capitalist system. Another sad side-effect.

There you go blaming capitalism for government wanting more money. It is not the fault of capitalism but rather the socialistic nature of goverment. Quit making capitalism the villian. A true capitalist would want drugs and prostitution legal becaue there would be markets for a capitalist to make money. It is not the economic system fault, but rather the governments.

dmk

They are making far more money with the current laws that strip personal freedom. Keeps the average joe down as well because street prices are driven upwards. Keep that military fueled by building more jails.

It is not so much for the benefit of the military (I wish), as it is for the benefit of the Defense contractors.

hevusa · 01-03-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by sgtdmski

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Originally Posted by hevusa

So this is what happens to "Justice" under a capitalist system. Another sad side-effect.

There you go blaming capitalism for government wanting more money. It is not the fault of capitalism but rather the socialistic nature of goverment. Quit making capitalism the villian. A true capitalist would want drugs and prostitution legal becaue there would be markets for a capitalist to make money. It is not the economic system fault, but rather the governments.

dmk

They are making far more money with the current laws that strip personal freedom. Keeps the average joe down as well because street prices are driven upwards. Keep that military fueled by building more jails.

It is not so much for the benefit of the military (I wish), as it is for the benefit of the Defense contractors.

Right. Top military must feel like bitches these days. Or am I assuming too much?

tadpole256 · 01-03-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

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Originally Posted by hevusa

So this is what happens to "Justice" under a capitalist system. Another sad side-effect.

There you go blaming capitalism for government wanting more money. It is not the fault of capitalism but rather the socialistic nature of goverment. Quit making capitalism the villian. A true capitalist would want drugs and prostitution legal becaue there would be markets for a capitalist to make money. It is not the economic system fault, but rather the governments.

dmk

They are making far more money with the current laws that strip personal freedom. Keeps the average joe down as well because street prices are driven upwards. Keep that military fueled by building more jails.

It is not so much for the benefit of the military (I wish), as it is for the benefit of the Defense contractors.

Right. Top military must feel like bitches these days. Or am I assuming too much?

Oh no I have a feeling that the top military brass is deeply in bed with the administration and many many companies.

Once you become a flag officer (general or admiral) you are more of a politician than a soldier or sailor at that point. (usually, there are always exceptions)

01-03-2006, 10:52 PM

You make a good point, but there needs to be some laws, because what one man might think is just and right another might totally disagree. Laws keep "most" everyone in line, its there is just way too many and too many stupid laws. If the punishment fit the crime (eye for an eye), people would adhear to them a lot better. At some point people need to be absolutely certain that if they commit a crime they know EXACTLY what the punishment will be. It will make a person think twice before doing wrong. Now all that has to be done is to eliminate all the stupid/needless/useless laws. have a good day.

aMFliberal · 01-04-2006, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xloosescrewx

You make a good point, but there needs to be some laws, because what one man might think is just and right another might totally disagree. Laws keep "most" everyone in line, its there is just way too many and too many stupid laws. If the punishment fit the crime (eye for an eye), people would adhear to them a lot better. At some point people need to be absolutely certain that if they commit a crime they know EXACTLY what the punishment will be. It will make a person think twice before doing wrong. Now all that has to be done is to eliminate all the stupid/needless/useless laws. have a good day.

I know I've gone out of my way to put a lot on the line before and I know a lot more people that do it. You'd be surprised. With the laws that tadpole was talking about, there are millions of people who would risk the punishment to do what they want.

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	Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	You make a good point, but there needs to be some laws, because what one man might think is just and right another might totally disagree. Laws keep "most" everyone in line, its there is just way too many and too many stupid laws. If the punishment fit the crime (eye for an eye), people would adhear to them a lot better. At some point people need to be absolutely certain that if they commit a crime they know EXACTLY what the punishment will be. It will make a person think twice before doing wrong. Now all that has to be done is to eliminate all the stupid/needless/useless laws. have a good day.