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Old 08-30-2007, 12:11 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I didn't watch the game nor see highlights from the game...although from reading about that event during the ninth inning it does seem controversial.

I'm actually much, much more of a hockey fan and I usually don't start getting into watching MLB until September. I usually just keep an eye on the standings before things start heating up in baseball.

Are the Padres your favorite MLB team?
Yep. I grew up watching them since we moved here in 1956. Saw them play in the minors before they went to the majors in 1969. My other favorite team is the Red Sox.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:20 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Yep. I grew up watching them since we moved here in 1956. Saw them play in the minors before they went to the majors in 1969. My other favorite team is the Red Sox.
Oh, I've been a Mets fan since I was a kid.

And I, too, also like the Red Sox...specifically when they beat, cripple, and/or destroy the Yankees.

(I'm not a Yankee fan...as you can probably tell.)
Old 08-30-2007, 12:26 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Oh, I've been a Mets fan since I was a kid.

And I, too, also like the Red Sox...specifically when they beat, cripple, and/or destroy the Yankees.

(I'm not a Yankee fan...as you can probably tell.)
Well, I was hoping you wasn't.

(Damn Yankees!!)
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Yes, she certainly does have a legal case.

After REPEATED complaints - both in writing to the head office and individual franchises - MANY MANY people complained that the coffee at McDonald's was served too hot. As it turned out, they knew full well that they served was 50 DEGREES over the safety standard.

I agree with the jury and the award 100%. Thank God that cup of coffee merely caused 3rd degree burns on this woman's lap (requiring several surgeries and skin grafts) and not on a baby's face.
I beg to differ with you here tristan. The lady bears most if not all of the responsibility here. One would expect that, when one purchases a cup of hot coffee, that is what they get. In this case, the woman purchased the coffee from her car at a drive thru window and, after pulling away from the window decides to put sugar in the coffee WHILE continuing to drive. Now, if she pulled over into a parking space to put the sugar in, I might feel differently but to put a cup of HOT coffee between one's legs to put sugar in while continuing to drive is just asking for trouble.
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I beg to differ with you here tristan. The lady bears most if not all of the responsibility here. One would expect that, when one purchases a cup of hot coffee, that is what they get. In this case, the woman purchased the coffee from her car at a drive thru window and, after pulling away from the window decides to put sugar in the coffee WHILE continuing to drive. Now, if she pulled over into a parking space to put the sugar in, I might feel differently but to put a cup of HOT coffee between one's legs to put sugar in while continuing to drive is just asking for trouble.
I couldn't agree more with you there...Accidents happen. And she had an accident because she wasn't taking enough precaution herself, to begin with.
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well, jasgallo, LOL, the court, the juries, and the judge disagreed with you

and - the award WAS reduced on appeal (she only got 1/2 million) based on her part of the responsibility

it cannot be stressed enough that this case would NEVER have taken place if the corporation had just paid the medical bills for the third degree burns and skin grafts due to their negligence.
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Exactly my point, Tristan. I would have to agree with the insurance company. The gate and lawn, I can see; but it's how the amount was arrived at for the tree which angered me. That, plus the fact that the other party decided to make a legal issue of it.
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Okay, my buddy left earlier; but he did show me the denial letter from the insurance company. It turns out that this accident does fall in the category of property damage liability.They have no problem with that. What they are refuting is the amount attached to the damage of the tree-$60,000. I would be a little hard pressed myself to believe the "appeal value" of this tree being that amont. Anyway, his mother has already gotten real estate comps for that are and has retained a lawyer. This is the frivolity of lawsuits that I'm talking about.

Depends if you are talking insured for appeal value or replacement value. It literally costs a small fortune to replace a full-grown tree.
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I agree with that, CF; but how does one arrive at the value of that tree? The original claim called for the "appeal value". To replace a full grown oak tree would cost more like a large fortune.
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The coffee wasn't boiling.

McDonalds at that time brewed their coffee at 180 degrees F. That is 32 degrees below boiling. Hot, yes, boiling, no.

I spilled water on my leg that was at 212 degrees and didn't get 3rd degree burns.

Most hot water heaters are set at about 120 degrees F, to give you perspective.
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What might have made the difference is that Liebeck was wearing sweatpants which held the coffee next to her skin and gave it more time to poach her. That may explain why your injury was less serious, even though the water was hotter than the coffee--less contact time.
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