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01-16-2006, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by srl119 Context is everything, I agree. Which is why I’ll remember that next time affirmative action comes up again. Just because your fired doesn’t mean its because your a color or gender, maybe you just suck at your job. | And if you have read any of my posts on Affirmative Action, you must know that I am also an opponent of Affirmative Action. Quote: |
"I don't like that people are using the portrayal of Bush as gay to mean an insult." If someone said your gay in the workplace in front of everyone, would you think its funny?
| Probably not. I mean, generally when people say, "you're gay," they're not even making a joke. And if that was the punchline, I can't imagine the joke was that funny.
Generally a person who says that is using the word "gay" as an insult. And as I said, I don't like it when people use the word "gay" as an insult. But that doesn't mean I think they hate gay people or something. In fact, about half of my friends use the word "gay" as an insult, even though I don't like it. But oh well, I'm still their friends.
As for my work, I have overheard people using the word "gay" as an insult. I just overlook it. It really isn't a huge deal. Quote: |
The same people who complain about a piece of granite that has the ten commandments on it suddenly likes free speech. Its only ok if you think something’s funny? Hypocrisy at its worst.
| And what does putting the ten commandments up in a courthouse have to do with free speech? No one is saying that an individual shouldn't be completely able to speak his mind and do what he wants with his own property as he sees fit. We're talking about the government here, not someone's freedom of speech.
A government endorsement of something is completely different than freedom of speech. While I don't mind an individual using "gay" as an insult, I'd be pretty darn unhappy if the government hung up a sign that used gay as an insult.
In the same fashion, while I have no problem with individuals professing the glory of Christianity, that is completely different from the government putting up a dedication to the glory of Christianity in our courthouses. Such a dedication sends a clear signal to people of other religions that our law is designed for Christians. Let our laws be designed for everyone, and let that be the message our government puts up in the courthouses.
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01-16-2006, 07:51 PM
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And if you have read any of my posts on Affirmative Action, you must know that I am also an opponent of Affirmative Action.
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And what does putting the ten commandments up in a courthouse have to do with free speech? No one is saying that an individual shouldn't be completely able to speak his mind and do what he wants with his own property as he sees fit. We're talking about the government here, not someone's freedom of speech.
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I'm pointing out an example where people who say the government 'makes' other people believe in Christianity by putting a piece of granite with the ten commandments on it in public is simply ridiculous, much like affirmative action and you calling Bush gay. Point is liberals are so stuck on political correctness yet liberals on this message board see's making jokes about people being gay is ok. That’s very hypocritical to me. |
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01-16-2006, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by srl119 I'm pointing out an example where people who say the government 'makes' other people believe in Christianity by putting a piece of granite with the ten commandments on it in public is simply ridiculous, much like affirmative action and you calling Bush gay. Point is liberals are so stuck on political correctness yet liberals on this message board see's making jokes about people being gay is ok. That’s very hypocritical to me. | The points you just brought up did cross my mind instantly when I noticed the name of this topic and the pictures that followed...I was going to compare this thread to their position on gay marriage, but I figured i'd best keep my mouth shut.
I'm just looking at this thread in a humorous way... |
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01-16-2006, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by srl119 I'm pointing out an example where people who say the government 'makes' other people believe in Christianity by putting a piece of granite with the ten commandments on it in public is simply ridiculous, much like affirmative action and you calling Bush gay. Point is liberals are so stuck on political correctness yet liberals on this message board see's making jokes about people being gay is ok. That’s very hypocritical to me. | The points you just brought up did cross my mind instantly when I noticed the name of this topic and the pictures that followed...I was going to compare this thread to their position on gay marriage, but I figured i'd best keep my mouth shut.
I'm just looking at this thread in a humorous way... |
This is the same way I find it humourous when Christians are pro life but pro death penalty. Score one for the confused!
But THIS WAS A JOKE!!!! There is a big difference to discussing the matters of homosexual marriage in a serious manner AND A JOKE!!!
Stick up the ass repubs in the hizzy.  :P 
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01-17-2006, 08:18 AM
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Do we need to put [joke] in the title of threads that are meant to be funny?
RHS can add it to the rules if so.
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01-17-2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by srl119 I'm pointing out an example where people who say the government 'makes' other people believe in Christianity by putting a piece of granite with the ten commandments on it in public is simply ridiculous, much like affirmative action and you calling Bush gay. Point is liberals are so stuck on political correctness yet liberals on this message board see's making jokes about people being gay is ok. That’s very hypocritical to me. | Not every liberal believes exactly the same things, and to tell the truth, I don't know that very many liberals on this message board believe in political correctness. I can say, at least, that I do not generally mind politically incorrect things.
This doesn't mean there aren't a lot of liberals or a lot of gay or bisexual people who would take offense to this. I'll bet there are. But I think the intent is clearly to poke fun at Bush, instead of insulting gay people, and I don't think the author of that thing actually believes any of those stereotypes or disapproves of homosexuality. So why should anyone find it offensive?
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01-17-2006, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by srl119 I'm pointing out an example where people who say the government 'makes' other people believe in Christianity by putting a piece of granite with the ten commandments on it in public is simply ridiculous, much like affirmative action and you calling Bush gay. Point is liberals are so stuck on political correctness yet liberals on this message board see's making jokes about people being gay is ok. That’s very hypocritical to me. | The points you just brought up did cross my mind instantly when I noticed the name of this topic and the pictures that followed...I was going to compare this thread to their position on gay marriage, but I figured i'd best keep my mouth shut.
I'm just looking at this thread in a humorous way... |
This is the same way I find it humourous when Christians are pro life but pro death penalty. Score one for the confused!
But THIS WAS A JOKE!!!! There is a big difference to discussing the matters of homosexual marriage in a serious manner AND A JOKE!!!
Stick up the ass repubs in the hizzy.  :P  |
One, what exactly is a 'hizzy'?? Two, So the executive who loses his job because he made an anti-female joke to his employees and a female co-worker overheard and took offense, his joke doesnt count as just a joke because why? |
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01-17-2006, 01:34 PM
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01-17-2006, 03:43 PM
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Points: 17,941, Level: 85 | Level up: 86%, 409 Points needed | | I've seen some other people take to the "Bush is gay" theme with a variety of statements.
(I make no claims as to the veracity of any of these claims, and personally disbelieve some specific claims as my first reaction.) http://mindprod.com/politics/bushismsgay.html http://judicial-inc.biz/Gannon.htm
"Bush as a young man supposedly experimented with marijuana, cocaine, and alcohol. Bush was a college cheerleader, and according to Kitty Kelly his nickname was "The Fabulous Mr. Lips", for his habit of performing oral sex on men."
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01-17-2006, 04:16 PM
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