Bush decides to tap into our oil reserves

RidinHighSpeeds · 04-13-2005, 07:16 AM

I believe he has...
http://www.gop.com/news/read.aspx?ID=4139

Once again you assume that the "problem" that could occur is we suck up the oil reserves in Alaska dry. Do you know exactly how much oil is in the ground? Didn't think so.

Josiah · 04-13-2005, 07:36 AM

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(the real problem is considered by me to be that our country is using up way too much oil)

What i had meant by this is that all we have to do to solve the whole problem is to cut back on the oil consumption.

The energy crisis is not going to go away simply because we tap into our reserve oil. It will only go away if we either take oil from Iraq, note i said take not buy, or we learn to live with using less oil.

RidinHighSpeeds · 04-13-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Josiah

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(the real problem is considered by me to be that our country is using up way too much oil)

What i had meant by this is that all we have to do to solve the whole problem is to cut back on the oil consumption.

The energy crisis is not going to go away simply because we tap into our reserve oil. It will only go away if we either take oil from Iraq, note i said take not buy, or we learn to live with using less oil.

Now you're talking some sense.

The only problem I can see with taking Iraqi oil is the French and Russians are owed billions of dollars worth of oil (contracts with Saddam)<---which is also the reason why they did not want us to engage war with Iraq (Saddam owe's them billions).

Taking their oil would surely help the cost of the war and lower our debt dramatically. I say payoff the Russians with oil money and screw the French!

hevusa · 04-13-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RidinHighSpeeds

What are you talking about. The risks are clearly listed in that article?! If you want to get further into a graphic view, Google "oil disaster" or something.

Do you understand how much we could benefit if we did not have to depend on foreign oil? Common sense.

This is a moot point because even if all the reserves in the entire world were tapped we do not have enough to supply our energy demands. Unless alternative forms of energy are developed life will be radically different in 10-15 years than it is today.

onlyoneplanet · 04-13-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RidinHighSpeeds

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Originally Posted by Josiah

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(the real problem is considered by me to be that our country is using up way too much oil)

What i had meant by this is that all we have to do to solve the whole problem is to cut back on the oil consumption.

The energy crisis is not going to go away simply because we tap into our reserve oil. It will only go away if we either take oil from Iraq, note i said take not buy, or we learn to live with using less oil.

Now you're talking some sense.

The only problem I can see with taking Iraqi oil is the French and Russians are owed billions of dollars worth of oil (contracts with Saddam)<---which is also the reason why they did not want us to engage war with Iraq (Saddam owe's them billions).

Taking their oil would surely help the cost of the war and lower our debt dramatically. I say payoff the Russians with oil money and screw the French!

Got a problem with the French?

RidinHighSpeeds · 04-13-2005, 11:56 AM

Don't get the idea that i'm against the French. I just have a problem with them hating us for going to war with Iraq (because they have contracts with Saddam).

btw I'm French/Italian

IHateLiberals · 04-13-2005, 10:20 PM

I feel that we need to drill in the Alaskan wildlife refugee. WHo the hell cares if a few seals die? Really? Are they using the land to pump oil out of? NO! WE take 2000 acres and we can pump out all the oil because in todays world we have something called directional drilling. And everytime we drill in these places nothing happens to the enviroment. Sometimes the enviroment improves. I dont know why we take these enviromentalist's word for everything. Look at how they made use reduce the highway speed to 55 because of Ozone depletion. And what happened after 3 months? The 65 mph signs went back up because going 55 didnt really do anything.

RidinHighSpeeds · 04-20-2005, 05:14 PM

After watching this issue go back and fourth in the house of representatives...it was suprising to hear the responses from both sides.

Republicans-
Visited Alaska reserves
Noticed thousands of acres of non-wildlife (because it has been reserved for oil over 15 years)
Supported energy reform while producing our own oil for demands
Creates thousands of new jobs (benefit)
Lowers gasoline prices (benefit)
Alaskan citizens believe we should start drilling now

Democrats-
Need energy reform
Animals will die
Wildlife will be destroyed(yet their hardly isnt any in the reserves)
We will still be dependent on foreign oil (no shit)
We need to introduce Hybrid vehicles and non-gasoline vehicles (What about houses that use oil for heating and cooking?)

The democrats will try and use the scare tactics to persuade people that drilling in Alaska is wrong. Don't fall for it.

hevusa · 04-20-2005, 06:08 PM

Having lived in Seattle I have come in contact with many Alaskans. They are totally against it. They understand that the beauty of nature is worth so much more than the oil underneath.

With the world at peak oil production soon it really is a moot point about the oil found there. We need to find other sources of energy anyway to survive, so just leave Alaska alone.

RidinHighSpeeds · 04-20-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

Having lived in Seattle I have come in contact with many Alaskans. They are totally against it. They understand that the beauty of nature is worth so much more than the oil underneath.

With the world at peak oil production soon it really is a moot point about the oil found there. We need to find other sources of energy anyway to survive, so just leave Alaska alone.

If we don't tap into the Alaskan reserves which have been reserved for oil over for over 15 years...it's just going to get worse. We should start to produce our own oil while finding other sources of energy at the same time.

Yes I do love the beauty of nature...But we also have to cut down some trees to build houses and drill in the ground to provide fuel and heat for our everyday needs.