Bush decides to tap into our oil reserves

hevusa · 04-20-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RidinHighSpeeds

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Having lived in Seattle I have come in contact with many Alaskans. They are totally against it. They understand that the beauty of nature is worth so much more than the oil underneath.

With the world at peak oil production soon it really is a moot point about the oil found there. We need to find other sources of energy anyway to survive, so just leave Alaska alone.

If we don't tap into the Alaskan reserves which have been reserved for oil over for over 15 years...it's just going to get worse. We should start to produce our own oil while finding other sources of energy at the same time.

Yes I do love the beauty of nature...But we also have to cut down some trees to build houses and drill in the ground to provide fuel and heat for our everyday needs.

The point is even if we do drill in Alaska it won't really help much in the grand scheme of things in regards to the energy crisis. We have bigger problems than Alaska can solve, so why waste the beauty that it currently holds?

RidinHighSpeeds · 04-20-2005, 06:21 PM

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America could stop paying US$53 million a day for oil, start sending an average of nearly US$2 billion a year to the U.S. treasury and produce up to 1 million good-paying jobs without harming our environment.

So you think this wouldn't help in regards to our energy crisis??

hevusa · 04-20-2005, 06:33 PM

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America could stop paying US$53 million a day for oil, start sending an average of nearly US$2 billion a year to the U.S. treasury and produce up to 1 million good-paying jobs without harming our environment.

So you think this wouldn't help in regards to our energy crisis??

From what I have read, no. It is a drop in the bucket compared to what we will require (nationwide and worldwide). It is scary stuff.

RidinHighSpeeds · 04-20-2005, 06:37 PM

Don't confuse solving with helping. You would be right to say drilling in Alaska is not going to solve our energy crisis. However to say it is not going to help our energy crisis is wrong.

Doesn't it make sense to drill, save billions, help reduce these insane gas prices, while advancing into studies for less dependency on oil?

Does it?

hevusa · 04-20-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RidinHighSpeeds

Don't confuse solving with helping. You would be right to say drilling in Alaska is not going to solve our energy crisis. However to say it is not going to help our energy crisis is wrong.

Doesn't it make sense to drill, save billions, help reduce these insane gas prices, while advancing into studies for less dependency on oil?

Does it?

It will only very slightly stall a crisis of overwhelming proportion. Definitely not worth the damage it will cause to the environment.

RidinHighSpeeds · 04-20-2005, 08:53 PM

Big Game for America's Energy Security
by Charli Coon (October 13, 2003)

And the part that would be touched? It's a flat, treeless area that is solid ice all winter and mosquito-ridden swamp the other 70 days of the year. The area endures 58 straight days of darkness each year, during which temperatures can hit 70 below zero. Jonah Goldberg, an editor at "National Review Online" who went to the area, writes: "If you wanted a picture to go with the word ‘Godforsaken' in the dictionary, ANWR would do nicely."

Moreover, the area's 1,500 inhabitants--who have seen their neighbors to the near north become economically comfortable from a quarter-century of safe, clean oil exploration at the Prudhoe Bay, Sourdough and Kuparuk oil fields--support drilling by 4 to 1.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3171

hevusa · 04-20-2005, 09:48 PM

The reduction in imports would be modest, according to data from the Energy Department's Energy Information Administration. With oil from the refuge, the agency's models indicate the United States would import oil to meet 65 percent of its needs in 2025 vs. 68 percent without it.

NOT WORTH IT!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2005Mar9.html

onlyoneplanet · 04-21-2005, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RidinHighSpeeds

Don't confuse solving with helping. You would be right to say drilling in Alaska is not going to solve our energy crisis. However to say it is not going to help our energy crisis is wrong.

Doesn't it make sense to drill, save billions, help reduce these insane gas prices, while advancing into studies for less dependency on oil?

Does it?

The oil we recieve from the Alaskan oil reserves is only supposed to fuel all the cars in DC and Philly for one day. Hardly significant if you ask me.

I'm surprised they're making such a huge fuss about drilling in Alaska instead of encouraging the American people to carpool, use public transportation or save fuel by avoiding total dependancy on their personal vehicle.

But a I guess the Administration would rather do their buddies in the oil industry a favor and boost our economic power rather than give people information about how to conserve.

This is another thing that pisses me off about Americans, we seem to forget the past very quickly and we only think ahead about two or three years. Gives a whole new meaning to "living for today".

But if people could only live for today in regards to the future, we might not have a crisis on our hands.

Here's an excersize: Ride your bike to work on Mondays and Wednesdays, carpool on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Since most people do their grocery shopping on weekends anyways, it all works out! This can be configured to fit any anverage Joe's schedule (unless you drive 10 miles to work everyday).

Hell, I'm 17 and I ride my bike 3 miles to school every day--AND I'm vegetarian (vegan on Wednesdays and Fridays)! If I can do this, any American can.

RidinHighSpeeds · 04-21-2005, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

The oil we recieve from the Alaskan oil reserves is only supposed to fuel all the cars in DC and Philly for one day. Hardly significant if you ask me.

Who told you this?

Factor24 · 04-21-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

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Originally Posted by RidinHighSpeeds

Don't confuse solving with helping. You would be right to say drilling in Alaska is not going to solve our energy crisis. However to say it is not going to help our energy crisis is wrong.

Doesn't it make sense to drill, save billions, help reduce these insane gas prices, while advancing into studies for less dependency on oil?

Does it?

The oil we recieve from the Alaskan oil reserves is only supposed to fuel all the cars in DC and Philly for one day. Hardly significant if you ask me.

I'm surprised they're making such a huge fuss about drilling in Alaska instead of encouraging the American people to carpool, use public transportation or save fuel by avoiding total dependancy on their personal vehicle.

But a I guess the Administration would rather do their buddies in the oil industry a favor and boost our economic power rather than give people information about how to conserve.

This is another thing that pisses me off about Americans, we seem to forget the past very quickly and we only think ahead about two or three years. Gives a whole new meaning to "living for today".

But if people could only live for today in regards to the future, we might not have a crisis on our hands.

Here's an excersize: Ride your bike to work on Mondays and Wednesdays, carpool on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Since most people do their grocery shopping on weekends anyways, it all works out! This can be configured to fit any anverage Joe's schedule (unless you drive 10 miles to work everyday).

Hell, I'm 17 and I ride my bike 3 miles to school every day--AND I'm vegetarian (vegan on Wednesdays and Fridays)! If I can do this, any American can.

Many people travel far to work and need a car especially when it gets very cold outside. We need to dig in Alaska and get the oil to help our economy think of the people before the wildlife, especially since there is very little out there.

***The oil we recieve from the Alaskan oil reserves is only supposed to fuel all the cars in DC and Philly for one day. Hardly significant if you ask me.***

This statement right here is far from the truth, this was made up by a bunch of enviromentalist wakkos to try to save the little wildlife that is left in Alaska do not be fooled by these false comments that cannot be backed up by any facts, we must dig in Alaska.