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Old 02-07-2006, 10:36 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 02-07-2006, 01:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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He shouldn't have been put in the position to have to lie about his sex life. None of our business. Republican witch hunt, conspiracy... bright as day.
He put himself in that position by lying under oath in a sworn deposition. No one twisted his arm, he was trying to lie his way out of a sexual harassment suit. It is that simple. Had he not told the lie in the first place none of this would have happened. However, it seems that Mr Clinton has a problem keeping his pants on around women. This was known as early as the 1992 election, yet the media cared little for it. Finally, it came to full volition. One lie after another to cover up his misdeeds.

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Without the republican led lynch mob the topic would be moot. Whatever occurs in Mr. Clintons pants is no one's business.

And we have seen with this administration that republicans are a terribly poor judge of moral character.
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Old 02-07-2006, 08:20 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Without the republican led lynch mob the topic would be moot. Whatever occurs in Mr. Clintons pants is no one's business.

And we have seen with this administration that republicans are a terribly poor judge of moral character.
Then Clinton should have said, "what I did in that office is my personal life and no one needs to know my business"...

He instead decided to lie under oath and to everyone around the world who watched him on national television.
Old 02-07-2006, 08:26 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Then Clinton should have said, "what I did in that office is my personal life and no one needs to know my business"...
yeah and everyone would have been fine with that, yeah OK
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Old 02-07-2006, 10:15 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Then Clinton should have said, "what I did in that office is my personal life and no one needs to know my business"...
yeah and everyone would have been fine with that, yeah OK
You're right...but lying under oath and to the public was not a good choice.
Old 02-08-2006, 03:48 AM   #26 (permalink)
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See that is that little sticky point that liberals cannot get over. The simple fact that a lawyer who is President of the United States lied under oath. That is a crime, it is called perjury. The impeachment was absolutely the correct course of action to take. So quickly everyone seems to forget that this is the same reason that Richard Nixon was impeached. Hmmm didn't Hillary work for one of the Congressman??? I seem to recall she did. She was one who was demanding the resignation of the President, 20 years later, well its no big deal.

Hypocrites, liars, and power-grabbers.

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See that is that little sticky point that liberals cannot get over. The simple fact that a lawyer who is President of the United States lied under oath. That is a crime, it is called perjury.

Hypocrites, liars, and power-grabbers.

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The same could be said about the conservative die-hards that can't get over the fact that our current president is cut from the same exact mold as Clinton. The only difference is the law being broken. If you think Clinton should have been impeached you have to think Bush should be inpeached too? Or do the hypocrites, liars, and power-grabbers live on the conservative side of the fence too?
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haha Let the impeachment hearings begin then...If Bush were to be impeached, I don't think any liberal would be anymore happier having Dick Cheney as your new President!
Old 02-08-2006, 01:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
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So we let him get a way with it because his replacement is just as bad?
The point is that I think some people stick up for thier president just because of thier political ties.
Bush is breaking the law. Cheney is a crook too and we could come up with enough to impeach both of thier sorry asses.
So let me get this right, Clinton should have been impeached but Bush shouldn't? This sounds pretty crappy to me. Bush started out saying we are not spying on anyone inside this country. He said this also under oath. Then he said we are spying on people in this country but only terrorists. Now maybe my ability to count is screwed up but I don't remember any terrorists being arrested in America because of domestic spying. The point is that Bush is lying too, but this little sticky point is one that the conseratives can't get over, or actually this is the point that they are trying to change into something else entirely, whats it called now, oh thats right, terrorist spying. Bullshit. Hypocrites, liars and power grabbers come to mind.
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So we let him get a way with it because his replacement is just as bad?
The point is that I think some people stick up for thier president just because of thier political ties.
Bush is breaking the law. Cheney is a crook too and we could come up with enough to impeach both of thier sorry asses.
So let me get this right, Clinton should have been impeached but Bush shouldn't? This sounds pretty crappy to me. Bush started out saying we are not spying on anyone inside this country. He said this also under oath. Then he said we are spying on people in this country but only terrorists. Now maybe my ability to count is screwed up but I don't remember any terrorists being arrested in America because of domestic spying. The point is that Bush is lying too, but this little sticky point is one that the conseratives can't get over, or actually this is the point that they are trying to change into something else entirely, whats it called now, oh thats right, terrorist spying. Bullshit. Hypocrites, liars and power grabbers come to mind.
No one died when Clinton lied.
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