hevusa

This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Why do you think America has the highest cancer rate in the world??

It is the same reason Europe doesn't want our genetically modified foods.

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Jefferson

European farmers plant the SAME hybrid crops as American farmers!

hevusa

Then why would they refuse our food? We aren't talking about small modifications like you are perhaps referring to. We are talking about stuff like this:

"There is a wariness in Europe about GM foods, in comparison to the US where they are more generally accepted.

Biotech crops, including corn and soybeans that have been genetically modified to resist insects or disease, have been widely grown in the US for years."

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Jefferson

I've got a very good friend who manages a huge Pioneer International Seed Bean plant. He's very much on the inside track of these things.

And again, he'll reiterate what I've been saying...
1. MOST of these Genetic Modifications involve very simple non-chemical tweeking. It's really more "selective breeding" than anything.
2. These "American grown" seeds are literally shipped all over the world. The European farmers are planting them whether they think so or not.


The fact that some nut-case wants to believe that the "evil corporations" are injecting steroids and chemicals into our food supply does NOT make it true. On the other hand, people are free to believe whatever they want to believe.

hevusa

This isn't about "evil corporations". This is about the fact that it is still completely UNKNOWN what the effects of GM foods will be on humans. Until this is known people should be unknowing guinea pigs just to make people more money.

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Jefferson

You have NO IDEA what you're talking about with Genetically Modified crops, do you?

As I said earlier, HUMANS have been eating Genetically Modified foods for almost 100 years. This is NOT something new.

It's just that some people are now making mountains out of molehills.


On the other hand, if you choose to eat all organic food (even though it's actually Genetically Modified Hybrid food), you're free to do that.

hevusa

Then I challenge you to find a completed long term scientific study that shows GM food is safe.

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Jefferson

Oh stop with your overly-emotional crying!

I'll up your challenge. Prove to me what is NOT safe.


In the meantime, I'm going to go upstairs and have a corn muffin - made with Genetically Modified hybrid corn.

hevusa

Didn't think so. Troll.

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onlyoneplanet

Selective breeding isn't what I'm concerned about. If by "genetically modified", you mean farmers are simply planting crops containing favorable traits, without anyone tampering with them in a laboratory, then I'd hardly consider it genetic engineering by, say, Monsanto's standards.

What I do know is that I won't eat anything that doesn't have a "certified organic" stamp on it. Farming is incredibly important, and I don't want to see the industry taken over by fatcats without any environmental conscience. Nature is perfection, and for all she's provided us, she deserves a little more appreciation than a simple Earth Day. On a grand scale, I think the only real contribution man has made to this world is suicide.

And another thing I know is that it's pretty fucked up to force third world farmers into complete dependency on these crops with the self-terminating gene.

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