mandiejo

yes, they should, but religion plays a role in politics. a big one, the republican party especially. separation of church and state deals more with schools, and posting the 10 commandments in government buildings.

hevusa

No it doesn't. It refers to all of governement where religion has no place.

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Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality.

mandiejo

but does that really apply to political parties or political surveys? not especially.

hevusa

What religious folks often fail to realize is that the separation of church and state ensures their freedom of religion.

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Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality.

mandiejo

i'm religious and i'm all for separation of church and state. i think nebraskaboy is too. it's not all "religious fok," obviously some of us get that. i think you're right though, too often religious people try to bypass the separation of church and state, with good intentions of course, but bypass it nonetheless in their strive for the salvation of souls.

hevusa

Exactly.

The people who are the problem are the ones that don't even realize that the concept of a soul itself is up to debate.

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"There is no such thing as laziness. Laziness is only lack of incentive." Norman Reider, MD

Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality.

mandiejo

i totally agree, which i hope doesn't decrease my status as a christian.

Dylan

Is there a point system or something?

mandiejo

the problem is there very well could be. lol! just kidding, but the fact of the matter is that some christians see it that way. every sin is like a tally mark, and while they believe in forgiveness it's like repentance works with god, it's good enough for god but not for them. that's part of the reason why we have such a bad rap.

hevusa

I think you have such a bad rap because the system of Christianity makes you have to believe for the reward at the end of saving your so called soul. Like the carrot in front of the face it doesn't matter how wrong you prove to be you can't change course (or mind) or you won't get the carrot.

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Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality.