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Old 01-31-2008, 11:11 AM   #51 (permalink)
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An affair consisting of two consenting adults does not show a pattern of sexual harassment. Therefore, Monica was immaterial to Paula's case, as was Clinton's testimony about Monica. Like it or not, that's the facts.

And obstructing an investigation into whether or not someone revealed the identity of a covert CIA operative, is protecting your boss from being charged with treason.
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:20 PM   #52 (permalink)
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The testimony was not material to the case???? Come now do you really believe I would buy that lie????? Lets see, Clinton was being deposed regarding his alleged sexual harassment of Paula Jones. Last time I checked, sexual harassment included a person in a position of power utilizing that position to gain sexual favors from a subordinate.
That presupposes that the subordinate doesn't stand to gain any benefit from the alleged harassment.

In Paula Jones case she alleged that her good reputation had been damaged by Clinton. Shortly after she received $500k in damages from the court she appeared nude in Playboy!

Apparently her Arkansas country-girl modesty and concerns over character had been overcome by then!

As for Monica she deliberately kept the infamous blue dress before subsequently spilling the beans (scuse the pun) to her equally stupid girlfriend and equally manipulative mother.

It's hard to believe Monica didn't believe she would benefit in some way from her consensual tryst with the President.

I'm not defending Clinton's sleaziness just pointing out that the case for harassment can be made in both directions.


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Old 01-31-2008, 03:52 PM   #53 (permalink)
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The testimony was not material to the case???? Come now do you really believe I would buy that lie????? Lets see, Clinton was being deposed regarding his alleged sexual harassment of Paula Jones. Last time I checked, sexual harassment included a person in a position of power utilizing that position to gain sexual favors from a subordinate.
See, the problem is, Paula Jones was never Clinton's subordinate.

She worked for the hotel, he asked to have sex with her, she said no, and that was the end of it.

There was no harrassment. Her job was never in jeopardy. She saw an opportunity to make a buck from a rich man and took it.
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:56 PM   #54 (permalink)
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And then the sleaziods came out and backed her financially and legally. You know, Ann Coulter, Rupert Murdoch, and that bunch. It is very interesting to actually read the complete facts about the whole mess. It clearly shows the fantics would go to any lengths to do Clinton in.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:18 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I can't believe any woman would actually defend a serial rapist...even if he was the president of the U.S.!!

Monica Lewinsky was a stupid little groupie who thought having a roll in the hay with THE president of the United States would somehow make her feel superior...to who I don't know!

Clinton is nothing but a serial rapist. If he was anyone else, he'd be behind bars. He should have never been in the Whitehouse, and neither should his "wife". It's apparent what's wrong with this country, not to mention people who deny truth they don't wish to acknowledge.

Clinton's trysts (which is the very least of his crimes) while serving as governor of Arkansas should have been enough, but sin-laden people turn their heads the other way. Believe it or not, there was, once upon a time, certain stipulations to be elevated to the position of President of the United States or the Governor of a state. And now? People no longer expect their leaders to be any better than they are. In fact, they hope they're not. It makes them feel better about themselves if they aren't.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:08 AM   #56 (permalink)
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[sarcasm]Yes. It is really sad that men are such weak, spineless creatures that they can't make correct moral choices but rather have to be protected from their amoral impulses by women.[/sarcasm]
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Old 02-02-2008, 02:07 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Then perhaps you should read the website that grannie posted.

It explains one by one the misrepresentation and outright lies posted on your 'factual' website.

Here's an example:


11. Gandy Baugh - Jumped out of a tall building (died at home).
13. Stanley Huggins - Suicide (he died of pneumonia).
14. Florence Martin - Accountant of the CIA. (Wrong. Florence Martin worked the graveyard shift at a convenience store).

Do you like making yourself look stupid?
You ask for sources but you don't give any yourself?
You are guilty of everything you accuse Grace of!
And you also bring up a website about the moon? This has
nothing to do with the debate!
Please spend more time producing facts and less time calling name.
Because you apparently care how you and others look!

And I do remember that guy who "Committed Suicide" in a park over
making the Clinton's look bad so something silly like that. And the odds
of a lager number of people dying or being murdered that were associated
a single family is rare. Unless that family is like a Mob family or drug cartel...
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Old 02-02-2008, 02:27 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Then perhaps you should read the website that grannie posted.

It explains one by one the misrepresentation and outright lies posted on your 'factual' website.

Here's an example:


11. Gandy Baugh - Jumped out of a tall building (died at home).
13. Stanley Huggins - Suicide (he died of pneumonia).
14. Florence Martin - Accountant of the CIA. (Wrong. Florence Martin worked the graveyard shift at a convenience store).

Do you like making yourself look stupid?
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You ask for sources but you don't give any yourself?
You are guilty of everything you accuse Grace of!
And you also bring up a website about the moon? This has
nothing to do with the debate!
Please spend more time producing facts and less time calling name.
Because you apparently care how you and others look!

And I do remember that guy who "Committed Suicide" in a park over
making the Clinton's look bad so something silly like that. And the odds
of a lager number of people dying or being murdered that were associated
a single family is rare. Unless that family is like a Mob family or drug cartel...
NMD-P, you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills there a bit.

I highlighted just for you, where Knot clearly stated that Gracie needed to read the link that had been posted, refuting Gracie's link. With actual facts, not innuendos?

And since you also seem incapable of going back on posts, to see the link Knot was referring to...Here it is again...

Urban Legends Reference Pages: The Clinton Body Count

The link was provided...You just seemed incapable of reading that it was, nor capable of back-posting to it, it seems.
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Old 02-02-2008, 03:13 PM   #59 (permalink)
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And I do remember that guy who "Committed Suicide" in a park over making the Clinton's look bad so something silly like that.
Ahhh you're talking about Vince Foster? His death was concluded a suicide after a three-year investigation by Ken Starr.

washingtonpost.com: Foster Report

Report on the Death of Vincent W Foster
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:46 AM   #60 (permalink)
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And Clinton as a serial rapist? That is absurd. As to your point about the president being above that kind of behavior, have you done any research into many, many, of our previous presidents? Because this is certainly nothing that Clinton was alone in. JFK? Womaniser. More presidents then not had affairs while they were president. The media just didn't report their sleaziness.
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