sgtdmski

I responded the way I did to exact this type of response. The stupidity of my response was done exactly to show the stupidity of the original premise.

dmk

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Dylan

Sorry then. I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic! : P

Apparently, my sarcasm sense is on the fritz.

intangible child

I mean't to do that.

So your post was a oxymoron Reagan thing?

Facts are stupid things.---Ronald Reagan

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http://www.troopsoutnow.org/

sgtdmski

Facts are stupid things sometimes. Just ask the feminists. Men and women are different, that is a fact of science, yet the feminists have failed to accept even this basic premise.

dmk

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sgtdmski

Reagan was applauded by many for standing firm on the air traffic controllers. Government workers take an oath not to strike against the government, when they did walk out they violated that oath and the law. Reagan, gave them 48 hours to return to work. His view was that they quit. After the 48 hours, they were officially terminated. The reason government employees cannot strike is because their employer is the people. Those union members walked out on the people. It is we who through taxes pay their salaries.

I do not need anyone to save my life. When I served it was my choice and my honor. That is the beauty of the volunteer Army, the individuals who join do so for their own reasons. As more and more troops return, more and more stories are being buried by the MSM about them and their choices, thank god for the Military Channel on Discovery. Time and again soldiers when interviewed say they understand their mission, are proud of the job they are doing, and question why it is only the negative that is reported. People wonder why the military distrust the press, hmmmm maybe it has something to do with the fact that the press only looks to humiliate or embarass the military rather than report the news.....including the good.

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Dylan

Sarge, men and women are different, just not enough to actually make a difference. That is what most feminists will tell you. How do I know? I'm a feminist. By the way, Sarge, that's called a strawman.

Biologically, there are only minor differences between men and women. Aside from the sexual organs, men have more developed spacial reasoning capabilities, while women are able to differentiate colors and sounds better. Men tend to have more developed upper body strength, but women tend to have more developed lower body strength. Men generally respond more to visual stimili in terms of arousal, women respond more to verbal stimuli in terms of arousal.

None of these things affects job preformance, or whether someone is capable of getting out of the kitchen and into the workplace. Women are, on average, just as intellegent as men. Women can be just as physically capable as men, as proven by the Israeli military, where women can be in full combat. Notice how the IDF is considered one of the best trained militaries on Earth.

Katczinsky

The "beauty" of a volunteer Army, no matter how noble it sounds, is a very destructive institution. I'm one of the few liberals that you'll probably see that supports a draft. I'm mainly pacifist, in that I think the entire world should be demilitarized, and military is a pretty outdated and almost barbaric institution; but so long as we have violent differences, and militarized nations around the world, I'd personally rather support a drafted Army.

The main difference between a volunteer Army and a drafted Army is the difference between the SS and the Wehrmacht in Nazi Germany, if I may use the historical comparison. Nazi Germany is an extreme example, and is good to compare and show what could happen on the current coarse. As many know, the SS is the chosen 'elite' out of the Nazi's ranks, and the most loyal of Hitler's subjects. And the Wehrmacht is a drafted Army of the people, that is the people's army. And as many of us know, the SS was known to be the true masterminds behind the attrocities behind the front lines onto both German and foreign peoples. Whilst the Wehrmacht was mostly protesting to such acts earlier on in the war, and was mostly the 'good soldiers' (for lack of better terms). Then of coarse the Wehrmacht, after WWII, later turned into the Bundeswehr; our allies.

If it is a solely volunteer Army, in that you get the select few, the select elite of society that is willing to kill human beings, and usually the select few that supports the current administration in that they are willing to give their lives serving it. Just like the SS in Nazi Germany. However, if we had a drafted army, that is the 'people's army', or the Wehrmacht, then indeed the Army wouldn't be such a dangerous institution. There deffinetly wouldn't be as many attrocities that are occuring in Iraq, and the Army is less likely to blindly follow the administration into unconstitutional wars. In other words, a people's army is much more likely to stay true to their oath of not only fighting enemies foreign, but also domestic.

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hevusa

Great post Kat. You make a great point.

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sgtdmski

Really, none of these affect job perfomance. Then explain to me why the US Army Physical Fitness Test in which all members are required to take have different standards for men and women??? Since the PT test is part of job performance should not the standards all be the same? Is that not the correct feminist response???

Furthermore, why is the requirement for fire fighters to be able to carry a 150 pound person on their shoulders waived for women??? Is that not part of the job performance, the ability to remove a person from danger in a fire??? Would not the correct feminist response be that both men and women should be required to have the same standards for the same job?? Equal pay for equal work.

These are just two examples of unequal work where equal pay is being demanded. The same could be said of the Police Force, construction workers, and a variety of other jobs. Men and women are different, and as such these differences should be recognized and corrections to the job performance should be addressed, much like the military has done with the PT test. However, the claim that men and women are equal, is a fallacy. Thus proving that facts are stupid things.

dmk

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teethandclaws

Spatial reasoning is more developed in most men and fewer women.
Everyone has strengths and weaknesses, and in a military situation where there is a team, women need not be excluded. If you have 10 men in a military situation, the leader is going to put them where they fit in the best. If you put a woman in the group, it should be no different.
You've really got to get over the stereotyped ideas on gender. Everyone is different, though some generalities may be applied to most people.

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