garysher

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sgtdmski

I believe a man should be true to his word. He used his celebrity to get his ass on TV in the first place, and then had the audacity to say that if George W Bush was elected President he would leave the country. Well we are still waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He says one thing and then does another, what a surprise. Another celebrity blow-hard who wouldn't know his own ass from a hole in the ground. Or perhaps it is because his head so far up his own ass?? Either way, if he had the nerve to say it he should follow through, or next time keep his mouth shut. Free speech comes with responsibility, obviously he has failed to recognize that. Oh well either way he just goes to show what happens when you put a celebrity blow-hard in front of the camera, all blow and no fracking show.

dmk

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Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles
-Russell Kirk-

sgtdmski

I seek to surpress nothing. I have just grown tired of all you blow-hards who can only complain and find fault with America. I am tired of hearing how great Europe may be, or how wonderful Sweden and Norway seem to be. Since obviously you cannot change what happens in this country because the majority of people disagree with you, then your only other option is to leave. So do it!!!!!!!

It was your ass who complained because of the policies of this country they hated you. So if you don't want to be hated, leave, again a novel idea. How about that???? If you don't want to leave, quit fracking complaining and do something about it. Either way it is your own damn choice.

dmk

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Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles
-Russell Kirk-

sgtdmski

Since when, does not having the support of France, Germany and Russia equal going rogue????? Furthermore now that we know that these countries voted against us so that their illegal deals with Hussein for oil would not be discovered, the light really comes true.

They made their own beds and woke up with the fleas. As far as Iraq being a breeding ground for terrorists, well at least we have an idea of where they are, and are putting a dent in their organizations. The whole time the Iraqi people are beginning to stand as well and smacking them down.

dmk

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Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles
-Russell Kirk-

waitingtables

I suggest you ask some Iraqis if they think it was worth the number of lost lives that we should fight the terrorists there. Is certainly wasn't better for them that we fight terrorists from around the world in their country.

I don't read anywhere in the Constitution that freedom of speech comes with responsibility. I would hope that people would choose to be responsible in their speech, but it isn't a requirement. And the right extends to all citizens, even actors. We don't have to agree with them or respect their opinion any more than we would someone else's. And it isn't just actors who have retarded opinions about our country, it's regular everyday people as well. They are free to say the stupidest things based on their uneducated opinions all the time. As it should be.
There is no dishonor in seeking to bring to light and change some of the things that we have gotten wrong. To blindly support the actions and policies of this country doesn't make one a patriot, it actually harms our country. Because believe it or not, we make mistakes. I wonder if your opinion about questioning our government was the same during the Clinton impeachment.

forester814

Why would you assume that I am not trying to "do something about it?" Why would you think that my political activism is limited to posting on this board?

My choice (thanks for admitting I have one!) is to continue to speak out about the issues, continue volunteering my time for candidates I believe in, continue writing and calling my elected officials about issues that concern me, continue to discuss issues with friends and co-workers, and continue to vote and encourage others to vote.

But here, once again, you suggest that everyone who disagrees with the majority should give up trying to change anything, and leave the country. You limit my options to leave or shut up.

And you pretend you are not out to stifle my right to free speech?

Quit fooling yourself. You certainly aren't fooling any of us.

sgtdmski

Perhaps we should ask the some 3 million Iraqis slaughtered under the regime of Saddam Hussein if it was worth it??? Oh that is right we cannot, they are already dead after having been tortured, raped and imprisoned.

While yes, there are some who died directly from the actions of the US in Iraq, the majority of those today who are dying are being killed by the terrorist. Why??? Because they have chosen to vote, to live their lives, and to rebuild their country. Thank God they have the courage to stand up in the face of this, for if it were any of our illustrious leftist who live in this country, they would just give up and go back to being raped and killed.

So rights come with no responsibility. Nice try but I am not buying it. That is just a lame excuse. Anytime someone exercises there so-called rights, they have responsibility. Our Constitution was established on the basic ideal of freedom and citizenship in this great country, and the duties that go along with citizenship. Therein lies the responsibility. Celebrities are different they everyday folks, while yes they have a right to their opinions, because of the so-called celebrity that also allows their opinions to be heard by more than just their friends, or a people gathered in a room or public square. Because of the celebrity what they say is often reported and that goes over the public airways allowing their opinions to reach more than say would yours or mine would normally reach.

Baldwin opened his mouth, and then showed his true colors, that he was just a bag of wind, happy to take our money when we watch his shows, but unhappy when we wouldn't do as he said.


And I have no problem with people working to change what they think is wrong in this country. What I have a problem with is those who complain and complain and complain and then do nothing. They have the nerve to blame America for the ills of the world. They have the nerve to blame this adminstration for this alleged abuse, or that. They have the nerve to blame those who vote this way or that way for the troubles. All they do is blame, and cry, and it gets tiring. They have the energy to complain, but when it comes to doing they sit back. Well they get exactly what they deserve. Everyday men and women see something they think is wrong and they get involved. If you don't like something get out and change it, don't sit here and blame the politician, or the people who voted them into office. We did our duties citizens, time to do yours.

dmk

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Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles
-Russell Kirk-

forester814

I accept your apology, dmk.
It was big of you to admit you criticized me unfairly, and I thank you.

waitingtables

If we are in Iraq because of Saddam's tyranny, then please explain why we aren't invading every country who has a tyrannical dictator. It had nothing to do with helping Iraqis, it was a strategic move, and it was about oil and war profiteering. I guess you can't ask those 1 million or so Iraqis that have been killed since we invaded, if they are happy that we got rid of Saddam either, because they are dead due to our invasion and subsequent war. And no, the majority of dead in Iraq are not due to terrorists or insurgents, which is the correct terminology. It is due to our shock and awe bombings, and the rest of our military actions, the minority is insurgent killings. There weren't any terrorists in Iraq while Saddam was in power, we have made Iraq a breeding ground for them, and it will be Iraqis who get rid of them as well.

And as I stated before, it is hoped that one would be responsible about their rights in our country, but responsibility is not a requirement in order to have those rights. One could argue that the KKK isn't very responsible about what they say, but you cannot argue against their right to say it.

If people don't decry the wrongs being done by their government, then they will never change anything. You are only arguing this issue out of partisanship, not on it's merits. You did not answer my question about your feelings about the Clinton administration, and what you were saying about them during their time in power. Because I can pretty much guarantee that you were loudly calling for his impeachment, and complaining every day about the damage that they were doing to this country. But you fail to see the injustices being perptrated on us by the Bush administration, even when their actions might harm our country. Is that patriotism?