Originally Posted by NoMoreDems-Reps

Wow, Do you believe yourself?


Ok lets think. No WMD, No Al Quiad links right (Hind sight).......
There was a lot more evidence and intel that said no WMD's or Al Quiada, and there was a
little intel that said other wise.

The report and other people said Bush lied so he sould go to war. We did go to war on
Bush's word......

Bush’s Lies About WMDs
Bush Administration Lies
YouTube - WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld etc. - THE ULTIMATE CLIP
YouTube - PROOF! BUSH & CHENEY LIED! *Someone MUST PAY!

Either way Bush is a Deceitful liar or a incompetent moron! Either way he should have
NEVER been a President of the USA !!

But with the REP-DEM Monopoly America has been reduced to scrapping the bottom of
the barrel.

Originally Posted by NoMoreDems-Reps

Wow, Do you believe yourself?


Ok lets think. No WMD, No Al Quiad links right (Hind sight).......
There was a lot more evidence and intel that said no WMD's or Al Quiada, and there was a
little intel that said other wise.

The report and other people said Bush lied so he sould go to war. We did go to war on
Bush's word......

Bush’s Lies About WMDs
Bush Administration Lies
YouTube - WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld etc. - THE ULTIMATE CLIP
YouTube - PROOF! BUSH & CHENEY LIED! *Someone MUST PAY!

Either way Bush is a Deceitful liar or a incompetent moron! Either way he should have
NEVER been a President of the USA !!

But with the REP-DEM Monopoly America has been reduced to scrapping the bottom of
the barrel.

Originally Posted by Zack

Please go to this link so I don't have to repeat myself. The information debunking Bush lied is all there other posters and myself have provided all you will need to realize you are wrong... go to http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16944

Originally Posted by NoMoreDems-Reps

So you don't think Bush lied?
So why did Powell leave ?

Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman

Oh stop the cry-baby whining. So the government lied to us? Big fucking deal! Most of Americans are far too stupid to deal with the truth anyway.

Originally Posted by Zack

He's a dove.
Democrats are in charge of congress and they want to take away responsibility for their vote to go to war with Iraq.
Because Scooter Libby was charged for something the judge knew he had nothing to do with... it is a witch hunt.
Why didn't the judge that put Scotter Libby in jail put the dove in jail that leaked the CIA agents name. The damn woman and her husband leaked their own identity.
Perhaps they desire a weaker Executive Branch? All actions taken by Bush were taken by former presidents... WWII saw full censorship of mail and cable traffic outside of the continental US.

Links with quotes please.
Yes
Yes

Not true, it is just that the Dems are weak on security and the Republicans are strong on security.

Left wing talking points without a base in fact.

FISA Law on 9-12:Osama can call an "American person" (American person is defined as any human alive inside the boundaries of the US including citizens, terrorists or two headed Hermaphrodite) and the government cannot listen to the conversation without a court order issued by a federal FISA judge. To obtain a warrant you must prove to the court "probable cause" that one, Osama is a terrorist and that he is outside of the US and two the person he is calling is suspected of terrorism or other felony. Under FISA Obama can call his cousin terrorist living in NY city to wish him happy birthday and if the US government cannot prove his cousin is a terrorist to a judge a warrant will not be issued. It will not be issued 72 hours later after Bush violated the cousins US constitutional rights but the person that violated Osama's cousins US constitutional rights is subject to federal law violation that could put his ass in jail for a very long time. Left wing liberals are just smackable!

Originally Posted by NoMoreDems-Reps

If you think that EVERYTHING bad is because of the DEMS and EVERYTHING good is
because of the REPS you have big problems ! I think denial is the word I'm looking for.
You are spliting so many hairs for Bush and Co. it's scarry, Unless you are Bush's
P.R. aid.

Even his mouth piece came out and said he used propaganda ect....
You and I where never as close to the Bush admin as that guy (McClellan)
I think you are waiting for Bush to come out and say "I LIED", before you will
agree that Bush lied. Sorry

Originally Posted by Zack

1. No war of aggression occurred, the Iraq War started when Iraq invaded Kuwait and refused to depart without use of military force, then the US and allies used military force to remove Iraq from Kuwait. A mutual agreement between the US, UN and Iraq of a cease fire in the hostilities caused hostilities to suspend. The cease fire conditions were few and could have been accomplished within 180 days if all parties were willing, the US and UN were willing but Iraq was not. The war with Iraq was RESUMED, for cause when after more than a decade it was quite apparent that Iraq had no intention to ever live up to their ceasefire conditions.

2. The US does not torture.

3. In accordance with the Laws of War and the Geneva Convention combatants may be held by the warring parties until the conflict is over.

4. There have been no war crimes on behalf of the US government. Individuals have violated "rules" and the individuals have been prosecuted.

5. The US has always conducted warrantless wiretaps of foreign sources, the Democratic congress now desires the administration to acquire warrants where they were never required in the past.

6. Signing statements are not unconstitutional and there is a precedence for the president to use them (they have been used in the past).

7. Election fraud is a federal offense and any citizen can originate a case if evidence exists. Since no case has been opened I guess there is no election fraud, if you disagree then open a case and present it to a federal judge.

8. Her husband outed her along with a liberal member not associated with the administration at the time it occurred.

9. Unitary executive is similar to signing statements but is within the power of the constitutional position of the president in a war time roll as "commander in chief". During WWII all mail from Asia and Europe was opened, read by the government and censored if necessary.

10. The federal government was not welcomed into the state by the state government. The governor of LA must allow the federal government in. The governor, a Democrat was responsible for all delay of the response within the abilities of the federal government to respond.

In the case of New Orleans I would suggest that all persons in the care of the US government should be treated as prisoners in the future. For example, if you live in government housing, receive government food support and an emergency is forecasted for your area then you would be "demanded" to leave the area to a safe area in the manner the federal government so deemed necessary or forego the future federal government support. In CA if an earthquake was predicted or in WA state a volcano was predicted then the federal government should evacuate all of its wards. The same should apply to the states that have known wards in their support from jails, adoption centers, welfare recipients and so on... order your wards to safety at first federal knowledge of danger for the ward.