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| Quote: The US was pretty much disinterested in the ME outside of support for Israel until the 1960's when the US started to depend on ME oil. To better understand the ME go to the CIA site and read each of the countries background and look at how the US was involved... try Iraq first https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/iz.html and then go country by country on the search at the top of the page. You must keep in mind that the US was not a member of the League of Nations following WWI and following WWII the Cold War started simultaneously with the end of WWII along with the US and Turkey fighting a UN War in Korea. USSR, our Cold War enemy was busy in the ME as we were busy in Korea. Following the breakup of the Ottoman Empire that resulted due to the Empire being on the wrong side of WWI & WWII it was our Western European allies that managed the ME. The ME was a concern for Europe because control and management of the ME was essential to fuel another European War, America had plenty of oil and had no interest in the region. It was during the Carter administration that we became very interested when they held US hostages through the end of the Carter administration. I'll agree that the US joined in with our Western European allies in "managing" the ME once America became dependant on the free flow of oil from the ME. Management included propping up dictators to keep the balance of power and to punish players that were getting too big for their britches. Where your link is most flawed starts with the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq... now go to this link and view the documents from the UN involving Iraq in the years 1990 & 91 and take time to read each one and you will see there was no doubt that Saddam was given every opportunity to get into neighborhood balance... Security Council Resolutions Following the defeat of Iraqi forces in the Gulf War the ceasefire agreement underlines the desire of the US as it relates to Iraq... we desired the tigers claws be clipped and not killed. We wanted a strong, or equally strong Iraq to balance out Iran so we demanded Saddam destroy his ability to scare the hell out of his neighbors and then he could go back to being a neighborhood asshole. It was his choice and every opportunity was given to him to be a neutral ME country but he wanted more. Following the attacks of 9-11 President Bush changed the American ME policy stating, America will no longer prop up dictators, we will no longer manage countries in the ME region... we desire the people to strive for democracy and live in peace with their neighbors. Saddam just didn't get it, now do you get it? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Zach did you see this video? And do you think it has any merit ? Just curious. http://www.defendingthetruth.com/ele...-bad-bush.html (Why the DEMS/DNC are just as bad as Bush) | |||||||||||||||||||||
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The reason impeachment will not come to the floor is because it would bring to the camera all the telling transcripts of Democratic Senators and Representatives that voted for the war that had nothing to do with any alleged lies. Want the truth about why some Democrats supported Bush and the war then go read their floor speeches... many of the speeches from the left scared the folks in their states much more than Bush did.. Damn go look them up and read them... I know they are boring but not as boring as Dennis, Keith and Johnathan... do yourself a favor and pick a Senator and House member that voted for the war and go look at what they said and then Google what they are saying now. It is they that should be impeached! There is no merit to the high crimes... wire tapping... he advised Pelosi, Reid, and both Intelligence Committee leaders of exactly what he was doing. The Senate Intelligence Committee leader made a speech on the floor six weeks ago that he agrees with all actions just before voting "for" the FISA bill that was approved and sent to the House that is now in limbo. Torture, no definition, Bush had a lawyer's opinion of the definition and went forward... You weren't there and I wasn't there so we don't know if someone was tortured and if someone was then Bush could give him/her a pardon. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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