I believe the original intent of the conversation was military support for Bush. You retorted cw3adkins' initial suggestion that because you like Bush you must have not been in the military, by saying that the majority of the military voted for Bush. This is a counterpoint to the insinuation that military men and women are generally against Bush, thus, you are attempting to argue the majority of the military are for Bush, correct?

But the point being made is that your numbers only describe a majority of the votes counted. This number doesn't represent the majority of all the military votes, let alone the majority of the military (as some didn't vote at all). In this context, your justification behind your suggestion that the majority of the military is for Bush is null. This is the only point being made.

And while we don't know that the uncounted votes went to the Democrats, we ALSO don't know they went to Bush. Therefore I think it is most reasonable to conclude the general attitude of Bush from people with first-hand experience...and in this case, it is cw3adkins.

But let us remember that it was the Democrats that were fighting to have these votes not counted, while at the same time telling everyone that they wanted every vote to count. What was their fear of these votes that they didn't want them counted. For those of you too dense to realize the obvious I will spell it out for you...THEY FEARED THE ABSENTEE BALLOTS FROM OVERSEAS AND THE MILITARY WOULD BE VOTES IN FAVOR OF BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!

THis is the only obvious conclusion, for no Democrat in their right mind would want votes for Gore to be discounted.

dmk

Who won the military vote is irrelevant. The point is that as the situation in Iraq has worsened, the military has been the first to see this and the least prejudiced by the media or the administration. After 9/11 and the initial invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan, everything was coming up roses, but now, not so much. Most now oppose Iraq, and they're a lot less optimistic about victory.

I consider military opinions more valuable than those of the general public, because most of us have never seen the war firsthand, but if your soldiers think you're not handling the war well, then you've got a problem.

Good lord, what is so hard for you liberals to understand about this?

The MAJORITY of military personnel DID vote for Bush. I did NOT say that ALL military personnel voted for him. I said a MAJORITY. And the last time I checked, 55% was a majority - but maybe not the way they teach "new math" at Ohio State.

And Sarge brings up an extremely important point: It was the DEMOCRATS who were fighting against allowing the absentee military ballots to be counted. Why do you suppose that was? (Hint - it's because they know how the majority of military votes go).

And as for cw3adkins... His opinions are pretty much like my butt-hole. They stink.

That's funny, in light of what is NOT being reported on the news.

I was listening to a news radio program, on which they had some interviews with military personnel in Iraq - ALL of whom are angry that the American media is NOT been fair and honest in their reporting. For instance, a HUGE majority of the infrastructure construction in Iraq has been extremely successful. But we don't hear about that in the States, do we?

And why not? Because the liberal media doesn't WANT you to know that. They don't WANT you to know the facts. They want to control your mind - and quite frankly, antithesis, they're doing a danged good job on YOU.

For each one of those accounts I hear just as many about how the situation is not improving and how the war is hopeless, and everything in between. Anecdotal evidence swings both ways, because individual experiences are different.

Wow. I never said you claimed that all of the military voted for Bush. I was pointing out that you were countering cw3adkins' point that the military as a whole is generally against Bush. Thus, you're attempting to prove that the majority of the military is for Bush. I was illustrating the fact that the vote count isn't the majority, as many votes weren't accounted for, and not everyone voted.

It's the majority of the votes counted, NOT the majority of the military. How is this so difficult for you to understand?

The Democrats and the liberal media are very convincing

Our media isn't liberal when compared to our nearest national relatives (Europe and Canada)

Would left-winger be a more appropriate word??