Bush to run for a third term

Jefferson · 01-25-2007, 11:14 PM

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You just took everything I said and drew out insane, weird meanings which I had no idea even existed within my statements. Your penchant for twisting words must be something that comes naturaly to the far right, huh?

Yeah, "far right". Sean Hannity & I are best buddies...

For every general that's saying Bush is doing the wrong thing, there's one or two that are saying we need more of what's already happening.

And you might as well admit that this flip-flopping, approval-desperate politicians are a HUGE part of the problem.

Antithesis · 01-25-2007, 11:35 PM

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Yeah, "far right". Sean Hannity & I are best buddies...

For every general that's saying Bush is doing the wrong thing, there's one or two that are saying we need more of what's already happening.

And you might as well admit that this flip-flopping, approval-desperate politicians are a HUGE part of the problem.

So then why not argue that when I asked you about it?! That's just an out and out lie, because any idiot, whether it be a strategist or a soldier, can look at this operation and see that the tactics we've used are a failure.

It's kind of obvious now that you've boxed yourself into a corner and you're trying to fight your way out. Can somebody give me some backup, or should I just let it go? I'm tired and I seriously think I'm gonna pass out on this keyboard.

Jefferson · 01-25-2007, 11:37 PM

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So then why not argue that when I asked you about it?! That's just an out and out lie, because any idiot, whether it be a strategist or a soldier, can look at this operation and see that the tactics we've used are a failure.

It's kind of obvious now that you've boxed yourself into a corner and you're trying to fight your way out. Can somebody give me some backup, or should I just let it go? I'm tired and I seriously think I'm gonna pass out on this keyboard.

What are you talking about?

Antithesis · 01-25-2007, 11:41 PM

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What are you talking about?

I guess you'll have to find out in the morning.

Jefferson · 01-25-2007, 11:43 PM

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I guess you'll have to find out in the morning.

In that case, you die in the morning, you little girl!

Antithesis · 01-25-2007, 11:47 PM

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In that case, you die in the morning, you little girl!

Oh, I' so frightened by a guy who lives halfway across the country and threatened me with death.

Give me a break.

Jefferson · 01-25-2007, 11:48 PM

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Oh, I' so frightened by a guy who lives halfway across the country and threatened me with death.

Give me a break.

...and don't forget that I called you a girl.

cw3adkins · 01-26-2007, 01:27 AM

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Good lord, you must think that Bush is practically God - all those powers you ascribe to him!

Or maybe he's Satan.

Who's to know?

But he certainly seems to be border-line omnipotent!

I would say satan, but that's just me.

cw3adkins · 01-26-2007, 01:30 AM

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Well, I think we both know that 2006 is over - so I'll assume you're talking about 2008.

And I agree. All politicians are clamoring to get on the "Get Out Of Iraq Now" boat, because it's the popular rage. Whether or not it's the RIGHT thing to do is up for grabs.

For the record, I think Bush & his strategists went into Iraq believing they could - after ousting Saddam - put in place a sort of Marshall Plan II, and have Iraq well on the way to a thriving Democracy by now. Obviously, they were wrong - for many reasons.

What thinkest thou?

I think that he decided to attempt to finish daddy's work from the first desert line of bull shit on every cable channel.

cw3adkins · 01-26-2007, 01:50 AM

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It's not legitimate because there's no plan for victory. We just see situations cropping up at random and deal with them. It generally doesn't work, and even if it did, terrorism is accepted. It's been around since ancient times, and despite our hatred of it, the US uses it regularly.

With WWII and the Civil War we knew who was the enemy and how to stop them. Even guerrilla wars can be stopped with special tactics, but we don't use them too well. That's why we're failing in Iraq. First, we never considered the implications of "freedom" for the Iraqis, and second we didn't know how to deal with the inevitability of post-Saddam resistance and lawlesness.

Any military commander with half a brain will tell you that in order to succeed, you have to stop the problem at it's source, not rely on the enemy's first strike to dictate your actions.

Following: Nothing but opinion...
Yes, World War II was a war that (in my mind) needed to happen; as the same with a few others. I see this war in Iraq (if I can quote George Carlin) as a bunch of prick waving. The assault on Afganistan was needed; not only as revenge, but also to keep it from happening again. Now, I will not say that my friends have either died or put their life on the line for vien; but come on...Bush, just like so many other times, did not use his brain. The roll into Iraq was not only obtusely planned, but was inacted without proper sanction. This "War on Terror" is going a bit too far (ie Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act). Not long ago, harsh words were able to be used freely (duh freedom of speech), now we have imposed or apprehention of a terroristic threat, because some dumb drunk decides to speek his mind. Those words like 'I'll get you back', 'Revenge is a bitch', 'I know where you live/work', and other "steamed" words will now land a chap in jail. Needs no nevermind whether there was intent or if it was only verbal frustration. You can only take so much 'rule' bending before someone (who is almost obligated as an AMERICAN) needs to step up to the plate and go toe to toe with 'the man'. I love being an American, I love freedom as well; but there is a fine line betweem duty and greed. I've seen too many kids, just out of high school, die for their country for something that I feel, could have been delt with in another fashion...or at least an attempt made.