hevusa

Jet Fuel doesn't make the fire sustain at a temp that will take out high grade steel from what I understand.

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sgtdmski

Once again we see good old hev lying, lying and lying. When the WTC were designed, 767s did not exist. The largest planes at the time were 707s. A B-52 that hit Empire State Building, oh wait, it was a B-25. THe lies just keep piling up, or maybe its dyslexia??? I don't know but it seems to be a habit of stretching the truth to support is conspiracy theory. You spout your theories and then can't even provide truthfully facts them. Hmmmmm, now I guess I know why you think that the President is such a big liar, it takes one to know one.

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onthefence

after looking back throught this thread all we really have proven is we can't stay on topic and eventually it all comes back to 9/11.

yeah I know I helped, I hate when that happens

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hevusa

The difference between a b-52 and b-25 is certainly substantial. I'm sorry for the error.

The difference between a 707 and 767 is not (as seen below). And it certainly doesn't negate my argument. The WTC was meant to withstand MULTIPLE 707 hits. Not just one 767.

Plus the fact that none of this changes the fact the the STEEL WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN WAY. The jet fuel could not sustain the very high temps needed to damage high grade steel.

707 Specs
Wingspan 130 feet (39.6 m)
Length 128 feet (39 m)
Wing Area 2,402 square feet (223 m2)
Gross Weight 160,000 pounds (86,184 kg)
Cruising Speed 550 mph (885 km/h)
Range 3,530 miles with reserves (5,681 km)
Service Ceiling 43,000 feet (13,106 m)
Power Four Pratt & Whitney JT3 turbojets of 10,000 pounds thrust each
Note: No standard passenger accommodation in the prototype.

767 specs
Boeing 767 Specifications
Dimensions Feet Meters
Wing Span 156.07 47.57
Wing Area (square) 3'050 283.35
Wing Sweep (degrees) 31.50 -
Length 159.15 48.51
Height 52.00 15.85
Crew & Passengers 2 Crew 216 Passengers
Powerplants 2 Pratt & Whitney JT9D-7R4D 48,000 lb Thrust
Performance Maximum T.O. Weight 300,000 lb 136,078 kg
Cruise Speed 527 mph 848 kph
Cruise Altitude 39,000 ft 11,887 m
Maximum Range 3,671 mi 5,908 km


There is no doubt that WTC 1 & 2 was taken down by demolitions, just like WTC 7 was.

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RidinHighSpeeds

The government would have been better off planting bombs at the bottom of the WTC and claiming it was Al Qaeda, than go through the hassle of hiring muslims to hijack planes.

haha...It just doesn't add up hev. But everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

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hevusa

I don't think they hired muslims to hijack planes. Didn't most of the claimed hijackers turn up alive???

Bombs planted at the bottom would not have taken down the towers and would not have been enough to get the American public behind a war.

What doesn't add is how WTC7 was brought down with demolitions only hours after the WTC collapsed, and how building that sustained MORE damage still stand today.

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RidinHighSpeeds

uh??

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hevusa

Half of the claimed "9/11 hi-jackers" have turned up alive and well, many in their home countries.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1559151.stm

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RidinHighSpeeds

They could have been wrong about the suspected hijackers on 9/11...They had terrible footage from the security cameras at Logan...

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This is true. But the point still remains that half of the claimed terrorists are alive and well today.

4 planes sucessfully hijacked the same day with half of the terrorists unaccounted for???

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