Dylan

If you think Hitler is better than Bush, you have some serious mental problems.

foundit66

Since you brought him up and made some statements which are kind of cryptic (at least to me), I would appreciate if we could get into such a discussion.

What "ideas regarding sex" have we "come to accept" that are "based upon the actions of sexual predators"?

And I lack experience with a lot of Kinsey's findings and data, but can you show where "he attempted to show" that having sex with children was "normal"?

I searched for the word "Kinsey" on "NAMBLA's web-site", but I only find three references.
1) Discussing Reisman who talks about Kinsey. Nothing from Kinsey supporting pedophilia...
2) Talked about a separate study which was done on some Kinsey study data, involving "common characteristics of girls who have experienced various kinds of sexual contact with adults"
3) Quotes of Kinsey which I think are grossly taken out of context. The first makes no mention of pedophilia, and mentions "a body of sex laws" which would be referencing the archaic sex laws of 1948 (including laws preventing consensual sodomy) at the time he made the comment.
The second talks about people creating a phobia of sexual predators in kids, to the extent that the children fear people who pose absolutely no pedophilia threat. He subsequently said that the reaction of the parent to an abused child may make the situation worse.

I would have thought that if Kinsey had attempted to show pedophilia was normal, that NAMBLA would have quoted him in saying so.

And Kinsey a member of NAMBLA? Where did you get that from?

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Dylan

Kinsey used data from a sexual predator and pedophile known only as "Mr. X," who claimed to have participated in hundreds of acts of incest and child molestation. The other claims are unfounded slander on Reisman's part.

intangible child

You definitely are a republican, spinning things into a mindless senseless daze,
anyway........
http://www.oilonice.org/watch/playshort-large.php

Republican policies have made us WEAK militarily, diplomatically, economically, environmentally, and in homeland security.

Dylan

I am most certainly not a Republican. I worked for Senator Schumer for two years, before moving on to work for Congressman Brian Higgins, both of whom are Democrats. I'm active in my local gay rights movement, and I founded the Gay-Straight Alliance at my high school. I'm a pacifist vegitarian. I'm opposed to the War in Iraq, the Bush Administration, and human rights violations. I'm a pantheist/agnostic. I believe in evolution, change, growth, and the global community. I believe in universal human rights, not just rights for Americans. I believe in environmentalism. I believe in science. I support gay marriage, legalized drugs, and privacy. I'm pro-choice. I believe in a secular public domain. If that makes a Republican, then the Evangelical members of the party must have been sucked into space when we weren't looking.

I'm also opposed to stupidity, no matter what side it's coming from, and you exude it by the boatloads. I know personal attacks aren't really welcome on message boards, and I hope this doesn't get me banned, but I don't take kindly to being called a Republican.

Admittedly, I do have some conservative views. I think deficits aren't beneficial. I think the government does a lot of things it doesn't need to be doing. I would like to have lower taxes. I think GM foods are the wave of the future. I think affirmative action, as it stands now, is poorly designed. I think every responsible citizen should be able to own a gun. These things hardly make me a Republican.

Unless, of course, the entire criteria is believing that Bush is just as bad as Hitler. If that is the case, then there are a lot of Republicans in the Democratic Party... Hell, apparently I even know some Republican socialists. I don't really know how that works.

intangible child

And this was not a personal attack?


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Originally Posted by Dylan
If you think Hitler is better than Bush, you have some serious mental problems.

Dylan

Well, do you actually think that Hitler is better than Bush, or are you just being hyperbolic?

onthefence

I thought it more pointed out the obvious...

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intangible child

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Hitler’s main source of economic power was from the I.G. Farben chemical cartel, and I.G. Farben in turn was controlled by the Illuminati. The I.G. Farben cartel was created by loans from Wall Street in what has been called the Dawes plan. Carroll Quigley calls the Dawes Plan "largely a J.P. Morgan production." The J.P. Morgan Group set up the loan to I.G. Farben, which created Hitler. 'Without the capital supplied by Wall Street, there would have been no I.G. Farben in the first place, and almost certainly no Adolf Hitler and World War II." Henry Ford merged his German assets with I.G. Farben in 1928. The cartel created the lethal Zyklon B gas that was used to exterminate the Jews. It was also involved in the torture experimentations that led to mind control methods, such as Monarch Programming. Do you see what happened? A Rothschild agent set up a cartel that was directly involved in the horrible persecution of the Jews. Still the family maintains the illusion of being totally supportive of their race. At first Germany had a significant disadvantage if they were to embark on a second world war. The nation had a fuel shortage, but the Illuminati fixed this problem. The Germans were able to fight WWII through the use of synthetic fuels that were created by the hydrogenation process (turning coal into gasoline).
http://www.whale.to/b/hitler.html

“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents
http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHG...NN_Bush_Nazi_2

Bush' Complicit Role in 911 Attack
http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/Conspiracy/Bush/

Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President ...
http://www.google.com/search?hs=egS&...nt&btnG=Search

The People of the World Demand Bush, Blair, and all complicit World Leaders be held accountable for:

* Initiating War: the crime against peace
* Crimes Against Humanity - targetting civilians; destruction of basic services
* War Profiteering and privatizing of national resources
* Cultural genocide, systematic looting of art, archives and cultural institutions
* Mass detentions, random roundups, & torture
* Violating Iraqi sovereignty
* Using prohibited weapons including cluster bombs and depleted uranium weapons
* Stealing trillions from social services
* Policy of Endless War targetting: Haiti, Palestine, Philippines, Korea, Cuba
* False testimonies, lies and fabrications to the public, the media, the United Nations and Congress
* Inciting bigotry, racism and a climate of fear.
http://www.peoplejudgebush.org/crimes.shtml

Bush Family - Nazi Dealings - WWII to 1951
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Po..._Dealings.html

White House knew there were no WMD: CIA
http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking-...344306427.html

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Don't be.............
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DEMOCRACY BETRAYED
Depleted Uranium: Nuclear Threat
http://www.justview.org/depleteduranium.html

Project Censored Media democracy in action
http://www.projectcensored.org/publi...s/2004/17.html

Dylan

So... The Illuminati invented Zyklon B and synthetic fuel for the Nazis? And the Rothschilds helped orchestrate the Holocaust?

I think you need to cut down on the acid and/or see a psychiatrist. I'm sorry, but you really are entirely off your rocker. Furthermore, this has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the thread.