Bush+Kyoto Treaty

Jefferson · 05-09-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

Arguably the principal source of air pollutants worldwide is motor vehicle emissions. While the U.S. has adopted stringent emissions controls, the EU has not been as assertive in this field; nevertheless, the U.S. is still the leading contributor to mobile source air emissions merely due to the very high number of vehicle miles travelled per capita.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution

How much time have you spent doing "mission construction work" in Latin American countries?

I'd say the answer is, "NONE."

I can tell you, from personal experience, that almost EVERY Latin American city (the large ones) are so thick with smog and pollution that you can barely breathe.

And you don't have to be a genius to know why so much of the snow in Russia is BLACK. Nor do you have to be a genius to see the overwhelming pollution belched into the air by vehicles in China, where they have no emissions standards.

Go back to the drawing board about your Kyoto hype. Perhaps you'll understand why THINKING people reject it.

hevusa · 05-09-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

How much time have you spent doing "mission construction work" in Latin American countries?

I'd say the answer is, "NONE."

I can tell you, from personal experience, that almost EVERY Latin American city (the large ones) are so thick with smog and pollution that you can barely breathe.

And you don't have to be a genius to know why so much of the snow in Russia is BLACK. Nor do you have to be a genius to see the overwhelming pollution belched into the air by vehicles in China, where they have no emissions standards.

Go back to the drawing board about your Kyoto hype. Perhaps you'll understand why THINKING people reject it.

Thanks for addressing my post

Jefferson · 05-09-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

Thanks for addressing my post

I made my original convictions very clear: The Kyoto Treaty is utter CRAP.

You're the one who's avoiding answering things like:
- Why is there black snow in Russia?
- Why is it impossible to breath in Latin American cities?
- Why do Chinese vehicles have no emissions controls?

Let's talk about that, shall we?

Jefferson · 05-09-2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

Thanks for addressing my post

I made my original convictions very clear: The Kyoto Treaty is utter CRAP.

You're the one who's avoiding answering things like:
- Why is there black snow in Russia?
- Why is it impossible to breath in Latin American cities?
- Why do Chinese vehicles have no emissions controls?

Let's talk about that, shall we?

Jefferson · 05-09-2006, 01:57 PM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, BREATH DEEPLY!!!!!!!!!!!

Beautiful, pollution-free Mexico City!

Jefferson · 05-09-2006, 02:00 PM

Oooooops! Only 1 North American city here. And guess what? There are only 2 that rank in the top 20 of the world - and LA and NYC aren't severe compared to the others!

http://www.sbg.ac.at/ipk/avstudio/pi...ico/cities.htm
http://dolphin.upenn.edu/~pennenv/gr.../air_asim.html

hevusa · 05-09-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

I made my original convictions very clear: The Kyoto Treaty is utter CRAP.

You're the one who's avoiding answering things like:
- Why is there black snow in Russia?
- Why is it impossible to breath in Latin American cities?
- Why do Chinese vehicles have no emissions controls?

Let's talk about that, shall we?

While I would love to directly influence Russia, Latin America and China I can't. The problem is obviously pollution.

I can influence my own country and we happen to be the leaders in green house gas emissions.

LA anyone??

Jefferson · 05-09-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

While I would love to directly influence Russia, Latin America and China I can't. The problem is obviously pollution.

I can influence my own country and we happen to be the leaders in green house gas emissions.

So you're now narrowing down which pollution you're accusing the USA of being "leaders" in?

Do I need to prove that wrong too? Are you even going to TRY to tell me that there's MORE greenhouse emissions coming from the United States then, say, Mexico City? Bejing?

Unbelievable! Call it a day, Hev!

hevusa · 05-09-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

Do I need to prove that wrong too? Are you even going to TRY to tell me that there's MORE greenhouse emissions coming from the United States then, say, Mexico City? Bejing?

Please do.

Jefferson · 05-09-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

Please do.

Here are a couple interesting links for you - since you seem to be in love with internet links. Oldies, but goodies.

See? You can support ANYTHING with internet sites!
http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba240.html
http://www.nationalcenter.org/PRGW1099.html