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Old 05-25-2006, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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FOX Wants Dems to Promise Not to Impeach Bush After Win

Democrats Must End Talk of Bush Impeachment Thank you FOX!

Monday, May 22, 2006
By Martin Frost

Now that everyone recognizes what I first said last September – that Democrats have a real chance of taking back control of the U.S. House of Representatives this Fall – it’s time for Democrats to start acting like winners.

Step one would be for the Democratic leadership to definitively put to rest any loose talk of impeaching President Bush. They should say in one and two syllable words that impeachment will not happen once they are in the majority and thus take away a potential rallying cry for the beleaguered Republicans.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196549,00.html

If the Dems do promise this and I hope they do, we will be having a 2nd party!
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Old 05-25-2006, 03:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You really didn't read the article, did you?

Besides, it's all a moot point. As hard as they've tried, they've not been able to find impeachable offenses.


But you girls keep on your diggin'!
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Old 05-25-2006, 03:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You really didn't read the article, did you?

Besides, it's all a moot point. As hard as they've tried, they've not been able to find impeachable offenses.


But you girls keep on your diggin'!
Au contraire! The Constitution is not basis?

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. - - ARTICLE II, SECTION 4 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales have committed violations and subversions of the Constitution of the United States of America in an attempt to carry out with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes and deprivations of the civil rights of the people of the United States and other nations, by assuming powers of an imperial executive unaccountable to law and usurping powers of the Congress, the Judiciary and those reserved to the people of the United States, by the following acts:

1) Seizing power to wage wars of aggression in defiance of the U.S. Constitution, the U.N. Charter and the rule of law; carrying out a massive assault on and occupation of Iraq, a country that was not threatening the United States, resulting in the death and maiming of over one hundred thousand Iraqis, and thousands of U.S. G.I.s.

2) Lying to the people of the U.S., to Congress, and to the U.N., providing false and deceptive rationales for war.

3) Authorizing, ordering and condoning direct attacks on civilians, civilian facilities and locations where civilian casualties were unavoidable.

4) Instituting a secret and illegal wiretapping and spying operation against the people of the United States through the National Security Agency.

5) Threatening the independence and sovereignty of Iraq by belligerently changing its government by force and assaulting Iraq in a war of aggression.

6) Authorizing, ordering and condoning assassinations, summary executions, kidnappings, secret and other illegal detentions of individuals, torture and physical and psychological coercion of prisoners to obtain false statements concerning acts and intentions of governments and individuals and violating within the United States, and by authorizing U.S. forces and agents elsewhere, the rights of individuals under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

7) Making, ordering and condoning false statements and propaganda about the conduct of foreign governments and individuals and acts by U.S. government personnel; manipulating the media and foreign governments with false information; concealing information vital to public discussion and informed judgment concerning acts, intentions and possession, or efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction in order to falsely create a climate of fear and destroy opposition to U.S. wars of aggression and first strike attacks.

Violations and subversions of the Charter of the United Nations and international law, both a part of the "Supreme Law of the land" under Article VI, paragraph 2, of the Constitution, in an attempt to commit with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes in wars and threats of aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq and others and usurping powers of the United Nations and the peoples of its nations by bribery, coercion and other corrupt acts and by rejecting treaties, committing treaty violations, and frustrating compliance with treaties in order to destroy any means by which international law and institutions can prevent, affect, or adjudicate the exercise of U.S. military and economic power against the international community.

9) Acting to strip United States citizens of their constitutional and human rights, ordering indefinite detention of citizens, without access to counsel, without charge, and without opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention, based solely on the discretionary designation by the Executive of a citizen as an "enemy combatant."

10) Ordering indefinite detention of non-citizens in the United States and elsewhere, and without charge, at the discretionary designation of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Defense.

11) Ordering and authorizing the Attorney General to override judicial orders of release of detainees under INS jurisdiction, even where the judicial officer after full hearing determines a detainee is wrongfully held by the government.

12) Authorizing secret military tribunals and summary execution of persons who are not citizens who are designated solely at the discretion of the Executive who acts as indicting official, prosecutor and as the only avenue of appellate relief.

13) Refusing to provide public disclosure of the identities and locations of persons who have been arrested, detained and imprisoned by the U.S. government in the United States, including in response to Congressional inquiry.

14) Use of secret arrests of persons within the United States and elsewhere and denial of the right to public trials.

15) Authorizing the monitoring of confidential attorney-client privileged communications by the government, even in the absence of a court order and even where an incarcerated person has not been charged with a crime.

16) Ordering and authorizing the seizure of assets of persons in the United States, prior to hearing or trial, for lawful or innocent association with any entity that at the discretionary designation of the Executive has been deemed "terrorist."

17) Engaging in criminal neglect in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, depriving thousands of people in Louisiana, Mississippi and other Gulf States of urgently needed support, causing mass suffering and unnecessary loss of life.

1 Institutionalization of racial and religious profiling and authorization of domestic spying by federal law enforcement on persons based on their engagement in noncriminal religious and political activity.

19) Refusal to provide information and records necessary and appropriate for the constitutional right of legislative oversight of executive functions.

20) Rejecting treaties protective of peace and human rights and abrogation of the obligations of the United States under, and withdrawal from, international treaties and obligations without consent of the legislative branch, and including termination of the ABM treaty between the United States and Russia, and rescission of the authorizing signature from the Treaty of Rome which served as the basis for the International Criminal Court.
http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer

http://www.motherearth.org/bushwanted/wanted.php
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You really didn't read the article, did you?

Besides, it's all a moot point. As hard as they've tried, they've not been able to find impeachable offenses.


But you girls keep on your diggin'!
That was a sexist statement. Couldn't you get a little more clever than resorting to putting men down by calling them women?
Believe it or not, being female is not a bad thing.
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That was a sexist statement. Couldn't you get a little more clever than resorting to putting men down by calling them women?
Believe it or not, being female is not a bad thing.
Come on it's the Repulsion mentality, you cannot expect any better!

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Au contraire! The Constitution is not basis?
You need better sources of information.
You need better thinking and comprehension skills.

You cry-baby Bush Haters keep screaming about impeachment - and there are literally hundreds (maybe thousands?) of lawyers doing their best to come up with impeachable offenses.

Still... NOTHING.


Your huge list - from that pathetic little site - is POINTLESS AND MEANINGLESS.

If Bush had committed impeachable acts, he would already have been impeached.
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You need better sources of information.
You need better thinking and comprehension skills.

You cry-baby Bush Haters keep screaming about impeachment - and there are literally hundreds (maybe thousands?) of lawyers doing their best to come up with impeachable offenses.

Still... NOTHING.


Your huge list - from that pathetic little site - is POINTLESS AND MEANINGLESS.

If Bush had committed impeachable acts, he would already have been impeached.
It takes time! It will happen!

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It takes time! It will happen!

All your cutesy little pictures and cartoons do NOT cover the fact that you have no argument, and lack coherent, linear thought.
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All your cutesy little pictures and cartoons do NOT cover the fact that you have no argument, and lack coherent, linear thought.

The CONSTITUTION!
http://www.usconstitution.net/

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